That's a very good point, we definitely do need to be more accurate and consistent in our external messaging, especially around the safety afforded by the software. We include a warning box on our downloads pages (e.g. [1]) in order to educate users before they deploy it, but perhaps we can make it more prominent as you suggest.
Thanks for the feedback, we definitely take it very seriously. Dan [1] https://commotionwireless.net/download/routers On 01/02/2014 09:41 PM, S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote: > Thanks Dan for sharing the warning label on your downloads pages, > describing what > Commotion cannot provide in terms of safety. However, it is very > different than what has quoted the media from Suscha as promises on his > interviews like below: > > http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f7_sascha_meinrath_answers_to_your_questions_over_internet_in_suitcase/24288845.html > > It has quoted that: > وی اضافه میکند که این سیستم به گونهای در حال طراحی است که امنیت > حداکثری و ناشناخته شدن حداکثری کاربران را در پی داشته باشد. > He adds that this system is designed in such a way that users can get > maximum security and anonymity > > > Anyhow, since the warning label is in internal pages and doesn't grab > user's attention I suggest you to mention it on another interview with > the same media and in the main page of project website inside a box to > decrease its risk for users in the countries like Iran, Syria, Sudan, > Cuba, North Korea, etc. because we are responsible about their security. > > > > > On 2 January 2014 12:14, Dan Staples <danstap...@opentechinstitute.org > <mailto:danstap...@opentechinstitute.org>> wrote: > > 'Safe' is a word that is thrown around a lot when it comes to > technology, and it really should be qualified; on its own it means very > little. We have a warning label on our downloads pages, describing what > Commotion cannot provide in terms of safety, which I would suggest > taking a look at: > https://commotionwireless.net/understanding-commotions-warning-label. On > that page are some suggestions for other tools you can use, depending on > your needs. > > However keep in mind that digital safety is never absolute and requires > much more than using the right tools; it requires an understanding of > the situation, the risks involved, *how* to use the tools your have, and > a lot more... > > As pointed out before, wireless is inherently a broadcast medium, which > makes transmitting devices locatable to some degree. Anonymity is really > difficult, and is not something Commotion provides. > > Dan > > > On 01/02/2014 10:32 AM, S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote: > > So, how the commotion can be a safe tool for the users in > authoritarian > > states like Iran?Because, the government has become very sensitive on > > this project when Sacha announced it ,called: Internet in a Suitcase, > > then the Cyber Army in Iran can triangulate and arrest the user. > > > > Is there any way or tool to anonomize and hide the location? > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Petter Ericson wrote: > > > > Wireless communication is inherently about transmitting and > > receiving radio > > waves, and triangulating any omnidirectional radiation source is > > relatively > > easy. So the answer is "yes, assuming they have agents in > close enough > > proximity and using the correct tools". > > > > A big thanks to the Commotion team, your work has been very > useful to me > > personally in making localised meshes in my neighbourhood. > > > > Happy new year > > > > /P > > > > On 02 January, 2014 - S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote: > > > > > Dear Sascha, > > > > > > Happy new year too. > > > Thanks for informing us. > > > > > > Before sending to the Iranian users I want to make sure > about its > > > security. You mentioned Commotion V1.0 is safe. *Can Iranian > > government > > > find the location of users by triangulating it or so?* > > > > > > Best, > > > Aliakbar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31 December 2013 15:02, Sascha Meinrath <sas...@ucimc.org > <mailto:sas...@ucimc.org> > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Commotion v1.0 is out! Helping spread safe, secure, > ubiquitous > > wireless > > > > connectivity for all: http://www.newamerica.org/node/99668 > > > > > > > > We've come such a helluva long way from our humble Y2K > > beginnings of a > > > > group of > > > > hackers meeting up in my living room... But, as Samuel Johnson > > once said, > > > > "Great > > > > works are performed not by strength but by perseverance" (that > > and an > > > > incredibly > > > > talented and dedicated team ;). > > > > > > > > Now we just need to spread the word to all our Internet > > Freedom-loving > > > > peeps. > > > > > > > > Happy New Year!!! > > > > > > > > --Sascha > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. > > Violations > > > > of list guidelines will get you moderated: > > > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. > > > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing > > moderator at > > > > compa...@stanford.edu <mailto:compa...@stanford.edu> > <javascript:;>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > S.Aliakbar Mousavi > > > > > -- > > > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. > > Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing > > moderator at compa...@stanford.edu > <mailto:compa...@stanford.edu> <javascript:;>. > > > > > > -- > > Petter Ericson (pett...@acc.umu.se <mailto:pett...@acc.umu.se> > <javascript:;>) > > -- > > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. > > Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: > > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. > > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing > > moderator at compa...@stanford.edu > <mailto:compa...@stanford.edu> <javascript:;>. > > > > > > > > -- > > S.Aliakbar Mousavi > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Dan Staples > > Open Technology Institute > https://commotionwireless.net > OpenPGP key: http://disman.tl/pgp.asc > Fingerprint: 2480 095D 4B16 436F 35AB 7305 F670 74ED BD86 43A9 > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. > Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing > moderator at compa...@stanford.edu <mailto:compa...@stanford.edu>. > > > > > -- > S.Aliakbar Mousavi > > > > -- Dan Staples Open Technology Institute https://commotionwireless.net OpenPGP key: http://disman.tl/pgp.asc Fingerprint: 2480 095D 4B16 436F 35AB 7305 F670 74ED BD86 43A9 -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. 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