I've had difficulty with the pledge for some time. Pledging allegiance to a flag or any other physical symbol just seems wrong. If we do pledge, we should pledge to principles. Symbols such as flags are too easily coopted by bigots, scoundrels, and tyrants. See
Time to change the pledge. <http://www.ejpoleii.org/Documents/TimeToChangeThePledge.htm> Ed$ --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Executive Office <command...@...> wrote: > > It isn't clear to me which children were "coerced" in a pledge salute. When I > was a child (in the '30s) attending a rural school in Appalachia, we cited the > Pledge of Allegiance (without the foolishness about God) arm extended, cupped > palm up. I don't recall any philosophical teaching attendant. It was just a > required ritual, establishing a "patriotic" (we always faced an American flag) > habit pattern. The recitation and ritual is still part of many fraternal > organizations in the U.S.A., and I imagine similar practices are evident in > other cultures--social bonding. Symbolic gestures (the third finger, for > example) can't really be sourced. > > Hon. G. T. "Bud" Martin, Ph.D. [INTJ] WORDSMITH > "Let the light shine in ... ." > > Major USAFR/ANG (Ret.) > dba COMMAND COMPANY > Arvada CO Libertarian > Candidate HD27 > KV4FR > aka "Tom Curtis" > -Author/Editor/Educator > "On target, on time, on budget!" > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Leroy B b...@... > To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 6:22:20 AM > Subject: [Libertarian] America's original flag salute was the origin of the > Adolf Hitler's NAZI salute > > > The original salute to the (A)american flag, done while saying the Pledge of > Allegiance was the origin of Adolf Hitler's "Nazi" salute under the National > Socialist German Workers Party (Nazis). It was not an ancient Roman salute. It > occurred because Francis Bellamy (an American [N]national [S]socialist) began > the Pledge with the military salute (hand to eyebrow) and then extended the > gesture toward the flag. In practice, coerced children merely extended the > military salute, palm down. It was done robotically in the USA in schools for > three decades before German National Socialists imported it. See various film > examples on youtube, various old photographs in web searches, and the work of > the symbologist Dr. Rex Curry, who made the discovery. There are many people who > are trying to cover up the discovery and hide the truth. The government schools > will certainly never mention it. If people knew the truth no one would perform > the pledge and it would fade away. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
