People are so enamored with Obama it will not matter whether he qualifies or not. Mark DeBarbieri
EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:45:38 -0700Subject: Re: [LibertarianExchange] Re: IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY Actually, no, we don't. Phillip Berg is a loon, and any stupid fool can file any jackass thing in court. He filed it in a court which doesn't even have jurisdiction. He needed to file in DC, Chicago, or Honolulu. This is how much of a loon he is. Look, I've seen the actual certificate and it is real. The State of Hawai'i declares that Obama was born there, and even if he wasn't, his mother still held American citizenship. She doesn't HAVE to be in "government service": she still held American citizenship, and had resided in the USA for 5 years, and that's enough. This makes him natural born under American law. There is practically no way Obama could be found to be not natural born. Obama's father was a student at the University of Hawai'i at the time and so was his mother. No evidence at all that either one was in Kenya at his birth. The more I look into this, the more outlandish the claims about Obama not being born here seem to become. You know how much subpoena power that the United States has over Kenya? Can you say, ZERO!!!! They can't compel Kenya to make them a sandwich, let alone turn over alleged birth documents. This is going nowhere. At least the argument on McCain (and I believe he is also natural born) is an argument over actual law, not over a series of bogus facts invented out of whole cloth. ----- Original Message ----- From: pong_god To: LibertarianExchange@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:04 AM Subject: [LibertarianExchange] Re: IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY Cool! Now we have two candidates of highly questionable eligibilityvying to be president!http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23415028/- Robert ---- In LibertarianExchange@yahoogroups.com, "Roderick T. Beaman"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY? > > Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 5 of The Constitution> > “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of theUnited States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shallbe eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person beeligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age ofthirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within theUnited States. “> > > This was never an issue until the 1950s. Some questioned if DwightD. Eisenhower was eligible for the office given that for the World WarII he actually lived in Europe. I do not think it was ever decided inthe courts nor how greatly the issue was pressed but, personally, Ibelieve that Eisenhower was eligible since he was in the militaryservice of the United States of America and I seriously doubt whetherhe ever declared Britain or Europe to be his residency. > > The question arose again in 1964 as to whether Barry Goldwater waseligible for the office. He was born in 1909, three years beforeArizona was admitted to the Union. From the wording of theprovision, I reluctantly have concluded that Goldwater was, in fact ,not eligible for the office. I do not recall any specific legaldecisions at the time but any question became moot when he wassoundly defeated for election in 1964. > > In 1968, Gov. George Romney of Michigan was the early frontrunnerfor the Republican presidential nomination but he was born of AmericanMormon missionaries in Mexico and his eligibility was questioned. Thequestion that time also was rendered moot after a series of gaffescost him any chance and by the convention, he was an after thought. My personal thought was that he also was definitely ineligible becauseat least Goldwater was born in a territory land that became a state,just as every president until Martin van Buren. > > All of this could have been settled by a simple act of Congress. Congress could have declared eligible anyone born of American parentswho are overseas because of government service. This has been donefor military families and children of diplomats. Congress could haveextended the eligibility to children born in incorporated territories.The issue of George Romney is very vexing since he was not there dueto parental governmental obligations.> > Things like this have arisen under other circumstances. In northernMaine there are no hospitals and many parents have gone across theborder to have their children in Canadian hospitals. I believe thatCongress has passed legislation declaring them eligible. > > This question is now raised being over Barack Hussein Obama. Officially, he was born in Hawaii when it was a state however, thebirth certificate’s authenticity is under challenge. A lawsuitfiled by Philadelphia attorney Philip J. Beg asserts that he wasactually born in Kenya and is therefore ineligible for the presidency.Berg states that the records of the hospital in Kenya can besubpoenaed for corroboration. If he was born in Kenya, I don’tthink there is any way he can be eligible since neither of his parentswas in government service of any kind. Berg also raises the questionof dual citizenship as reflected in his school records from Indonesia.I think is that is minor, though. > > Stay tuned folks. This one could be big. > > >http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/obama-sued-in-philadelphia-federal.html> > Roderick T. Beaman,D.O.> Board Certified Family Physician> When government does other than its legitimate function, it entersinto the illegitimate and becomes an agent of evil. The true patriotrecognizes this and strives to obstruct government in these immoraland indefensible activities and even reverse them. In this, thepatriot endeavors to save himself, his country and the government.>
