Um...I think i qualified all of this in my post as I anticipated these very questions:
Quote: "I can go back in history and find many examples of many different people with different ideologies (some I agree with, some I don't) calling themselves "progressive." But in my opinion (which has been my opinion since the mid 1980s), progressive means going through the horns of dilemmas as they come up and working together for solutions." And... Quote: "We believe in letting go of the horns and finding a away to go between the horns...we are not marxist, communist, redistributers, or any thing like that. As a small business owner, I can safely say that I am a capitalist. I used some of my capital (savings) and invested it in the hopes that it will grow...therefore, capitalist." --- In LibertarianExchange@yahoogroups.com, "Earl" <earljre...@...> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > You say you are a progressive. That can mean many different things. Ross > Perot was (is?) a progressive but then so was FDR. Are you a socialist? > That's what I usually think when I hear "progressive". > > Cha bhi fios aire math an tobair gus an tràigh e. > Earl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim > To: LibertarianExchange@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:07 PM > Subject: [LibertarianExchange] Re: An article > > > Rarely do I respond to posts here, I am mainly just observing and > learning. But...this post deserves a response from a progressive. > > Jessie and Al always think they are the victims. They remain part of the > problem instead of being part of the solution. There are many like them...I'm > not sure if it is left-over anger from the civil rights era or if they are > actually trying to gin up some anger by playing the victim, but their > bitterness is always there. > > Maybe it's nostalgia for the "good ole days" of anger spilling out in the > streets, but it is certainly not helpful. I cannot express how discontented I > am with people like this...especially when I hear someone call them > "progressive." They are not progressive, they are left of the left liberals. > > If you push them on their opinions a little, you will probably find out > that they still believe reparations are owed. I think that Affirmative Action > has provided adequate reparation. I believe that Affirmative Action actually > gave many, many, minorities a hand up at just the right time in our history. > But it has probably served its purpose and should be reviewed - just like all > programs should be periodically reviewed to determine their relevance. > > Jessie and Al, et al, grabbed on to the liberal horn 4 decades ago and they > absolutely refuse to let go...the bull is shaking his head trying to get them > off but it only gets worse for them. Many, many liberals are now calling > themselves "progressive" when they really do not know what they are talking > about. I have been calling myself "progressive" since about 1984. > > We believe in letting go of the horns and finding a away to go between the > horns...we are not marxist, communist, redistributers, or any thing like > that. As a small business owner, I can safely say that I am a capitalist. I > used some of my capital (savings) and invested it in the hopes that it will > grow...therefore, capitalist. > > But I also believe in rules...some of those rules restrict what I can do (I > don't like these rules) and others protect my investments (I like these > rules). Sometimes it is hard for me to find that balance but equilibrium is > always what I shoot for. Many times I am wrong, many times I am right. But I > always strive to go between the horns of this dilemma. > > I am the first to admit when I am wrong. But Jessie and Al can never do > this...they are so stuck in their anger and they are always trying to find > some kind of "injustice" to complain about. But that's all they do, complain, > complain, complain, without offering any solutions - except for more rules > and regulation. Always the victim and always because they are black. Hey, > dumb-asses come in all flavors. > > Many of my so-called "progressive" colleagues frequently refer to Rush as a > racist. I am not ready to place that label on him. I don't know what racism > is because I have never been a victim of racism. I do have fun on my show > using satire but not once have I ever called Rush a racist. Doing this only > serves to further divide. Calling people "racist" without any real hard > evidence is only contributing to the problem - those friends of mine are > still stuck in the problem instead of living in the solution. I try to point > this out to them in the hopes they will understand how divisive and horrible > their words can be. > > I can go back in history and find many examples of many different people > with different ideologies (some I agree with, some I don't) calling > themselves "progressive." But in my opinion (which has been my opinion since > the mid 1980s), progressive means going through the horns of dilemmas as they > come up and working together for solutions. not every one will always be > happy with the solutions in any system or political party or ideology, but > working to take the good with the bad maintains necessary equilibrium for a > vibrant, educated society. > > --- In LibertarianExchange@yahoogroups.com, "Roderick T. Beaman" > <crazylibertarian@> wrote: > > > > The following is the text of an article of mine just published at > www.libertyforall.net/?p=3262#more-3262Â . > > Â Roderick T. Beaman,D.O. > > Board Certified Family Physician > > Every government official should go to bed at night > > afraid that when he awakens in the morning > > that there will be an angry mob outside his house > > waiting to shoot or hang him. > > > > > > RUSHING LIMBAUGH FROM THE NFL > > NEVER SATIRIZE LIBERALS, NEVER QUESTION THE APPROVED AGGRIEVED > > ã?? > > ã?? > > Over the past few weeks it emerged that Rush Limbaugh was to be part of a > group of investors in the St. Louis Rams. The firestorm was as intense as it > was predictable. > > Weighing in were the Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. It always > amusing to see those two in action. Theyâ?Tre to politics what Nehru Jackets > are to fashion. Bell bottoms and platform shoes may come back. Neither > Jackson nor Sharpton can get over that their days have passed. > > Al Sharpton called Limbaugh divisive. This is a man who gave us that > Tawana Brawley hoax and never apologized for it. Heâ?Ts put himself at the > center of just about every possible event that could even be remotely > considered racial. > > Tawana Brawley was the teenager in Wappingers Falls, New York who claimed > that she was kidnaped, raped and sodomized by a group of white men, among > them a part-time cop who would commit suicide. Investigators found that, at > the time of the claimed event, he was in the company of Assistant DA Steven > Pagones and State Trooper Scott Patterson. Sharpton then accused Pagones of > being one of the participants and that Pagones had murdered cop to silence > him and that the report of a suicide was part of a big cover up. Nothing is > ever below Al Sharpton. > > The case caused a media sensation and the usual suspects lined up to > exploit it; Phil Donahue, Louis Farrakhan and Bill Cosby. Despite occasional > lapses into reason, Cosby usually resides in the fever swamps of the lunatic > left. Sharpton was eventually sued, successfully, by Pagones but he resisted > paying anything until he was bailed out but some heavy duty black > millionaires. > > Jesse is another case. Jesse is a part-time minister, part-time > politician and full time publicity seeker. Knowing that Martin Luther King, > Jr.â?Ts assassination would leave a leadership void, he embellished his role > at that terrible event. Afterwards, I read several accounts that disputed his > version, he somehow never got called on it. Nor does Jesse ever get called on > anything. > > Particularly appalling were the events after the suicidal death of > Raynard Johnson, a black teenager in Kokomo, Mississippi in June, 2000. The > local and state police ruled it a suicide. The autopsy showed no signs of a > struggle that would be expected from a lynching. The despondent parents > turned to Jesse for help and he, of course, agreed to go to Mississippi to > fund the truth. > > It was a majority white town and it turned out that he had been dating a > white girl who had just broken up with him hours before he was found hanged > with a braided belt that his parents said he didnâ?Tt own. A video from a > convenience store showed that he was wearing a belt similar to the one he was > hanged with. > > Jesse arrived to great fanfare and many cameras (I apologize for stating > the obvious. Jesse always arrives to great fanfare and many cameras) and > announced heâ?Td find who were responsible for the evil deed. Jesse said the > boyâ?Ts throat had been cut. It wasnâ?Tt. Jesse must have left the state in > the middle of the night because he has never been heard from again regarding > the unfortunate matter. > > I rarely listen to Rush Limbaugh although I have in the past. I used to > find him interesting and funny but have come to find him annoying. I rarely > listen to him anymore. But these were two of the people lined up to oppose > Limbaugh. Sterling credentials, the two of them, donâ?Tt you think. > > Many liberals have called him racist, bigoted & sexist, saying that he > ridicules blacks, minorities and women. I have never found that. He satirizes > liberals and that is what has made him such a pariah to the Left. > > Bill Raspberry was always one of my favorite columnists. Black and > liberal, he was never one to dismiss conservatives as bigots etc. He would > always listen. > > One time, he referred to Limbaugh as a racist or some such. Someone > challenged him and asked if heâ?Td ever listened to Rush Limbaugh. He > admitted he hadnâ?Tt and then tuned him in for a while. His conclusion, Rush > Limbaugh was not a racist. > > He wrote that Limbaugh didnâ?Tt ridicule blacks, women and minorities. He > ridiculed liberals. Raspberry went on to say that it was a reversal of the > usual, where liberals would satirize all things conservative but that > suddenly, when the shoe was on the other foot, the liberals showed that they > could give it but couldnâ?Tt take it. > > Quite so. I have found that all of my adult life. The most intolerant > people I have ever met have been liberals. The most judgmental people I have > ever met have been liberals. Further, the most racist and bigoted people I > have ever met have been liberals. > > When I went to college at New York University, the assumption was that if > you even went to college, you had to be liberal. As William Buckley once > observed, liberals feel that it is impossible to be simultaneously > intelligent and conservative. He also once observed, liberal intolerance was > exhibited by the astonishment that there even was another opinion. > > Judgmentalism was another matter. If you told a liberal you admired > either Barry Goldwater or William Buckley, they just about handed you a set > of sheets and a swastika armband to wear. > > Bigotry may be the most surprising to readers but it was there among > liberals, far more than among conservatives. The very same people who were > waving the flag for the various civil rights bills of the 1960s were the most > upset when blacks moved into their comfy upper middle class enclaves of Great > Neck and Manhattanville. > > The misrepresentations of Limbaughâ?Ts statements have been equally > appalling. Oâ?TReilly has stated, repeatedly, that his researchers have been > unable to find any record that Limbaugh ever said that slavery wasnâ?Tt all > bad. Yet that persists. > > I can assure every reader, that I have seen personally, how things get > distorted, in and by the media and by viewers and readers. I have been > present when stories were planted and have been quoted with things I never > said. (Even though the latter incident was in a college newspaper, it > nevertheless is illustrative. For dramatic illustration of the problem, see > the excellent first 30 minutes of the otherwise mediocre Paul Newman/Sally > Field movie, â?~Absence of Maliceâ?T.) > > Rush Limbaugh has been a football afficionado for years. His problems > really emerged from his remark as a football analyst about the Philadelphia > Eagles and Donovan McNabb. He said that it was the defense that had been > carrying the team and he wondered whether the accolades that were being > heaped on Donovan McNabb were due to the mediaâ?Ts wanting an outstanding > black quarterback. > > As itâ?Ts turning out, McNabb is a very good quarterback. It was a valid > question but in these days of political ultra-correctness, such discussions > arenâ?Tt permitted. Thus, we have now a black president and former President > Jimmy Carter and others state that criticism of him arises from the innate > racism at the heart of America. (Oh yes, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima > culpa, Jimmy. In my heart, I know Iâ?Tm a racist.) And no one is permitted to > wonder whether some promotions of minorities are due to their being > minorities and that maybe society should examine all of these programs. > Somehow, it seems the answer is no. > > The Obama Administration is now waxing apoplectic over executive salaries > of companies that took TARP money. Why canâ?Tt we raise the same questions > about Affirmative Action? > > Can anyone of us entirely eliminate from ourselves racial awareness? I > strongly doubt it. At this late date in my life, the first thing I notice > when I meet a black person, is that he is black and it remains an issue > throughout any exchange. I hate that about myself. Do blacks have the same > problem? I donâ?Tt know but think so. > > But if we canâ?Tt view hold all politicians, sports figures and > beneficiaries of public policies up to the light of critical examination, we > are the losers. > > >
