"Douglas Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in part:

>I do not recall a time when the left was civil. Certainly when I was in 
>college - early 1980s - the liberals' idea of a debate was to call anyone 
>who disagreed with them "racist, sexist, homophobe." Usually all three at 
>once, regardless of the topic. And when a conservative or even moderate 
>speaker came in (e.g. then-Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, an old-fashioned 
>liberal Democrat), their tactic was to shout down the speaker or threaten 
>violence to get the speaker to cancel (e.g. the South African ambassador) 
>and to call that "free speech."

>> > I'm a little younger than he is, and I can't say whether that's really

>>the
>> > case, or whether we're just prone (for some reason) to view the past
as 
>>a
>> > time of greater civility of discourse.

>I'm a little younger than you and while the popular thing to say now is
how 
>much worse things are, I recall the invective hurled in Reagan's direction

>when he confronted the liberals' precious Soviet Union or backed tax cuts
or 
>changes in policy. I think things now are exactly where they were two 
>decades ago ito incivility. I think the left acted the same towards the 
>right during Clinton's administration too. I don't buy this idea of a 
>change. I know a lot of people do, but I think it's because the leftist 
>media promotes the idea that there's greater incivility as a further way
of 
>attacking Bush.

Then is it possible that the "left" turned uncivil & withdrawn first,
reaching its current description by the early 1980s, but that since then
the "right" has turned uncivil & withdrawn too?

In Your Sly Tribe,
Robert
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