https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161441

--- Comment #14 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalr...@gmx.com> ---

(In reply to Telesto from comment #0)
> UI: Hard to tell which side of a shape being used for as reference for
> rotation 

Are you sure that is exactly the problem? See below

> This rather common experience, IMHO. Lets assume some - like me - re-using a
> shape (by copy paste) initially drawn say vertically but used horizontally.
> The horizontal shape will have 90 degree angle. Really counter intuitive

In itself, this is not counter-intuitive to me, nor does it matter. The
problem, I would say, is with the ffect you mentioned earlier:

> the negative or positive rotation doesn't matter, until you you add
> text to a shape

So, I would say that the meaningful issue you're pointing out is that, on one
hand, the shapes looks the same, but on the other hand, they have significantly
different behaviors. What other behavior distinguishes the shapes other than
the text block?

Because, for the text block, one could argue that once you "enter" the block,
you see a rectangular frame for the text block itself, that lets you know what
you can expect when typing. Please explain why that is not good enough.


> Opposite happens to: copy/paste of horizontal shape rotation to vertical.
> So horizontal shape getting angle of 90, which feels natural (to me)

I didn't understand this sentence. Nor your definition of a "horizontal shape".
Do you mean a 2D shape for which the page-horizontal extent is larger than the
page-vertical extent?

> A) Use one angle as basepoint (say horizontal). So vertically drawn object
> is has automatically a 90 degree angle. No clue if this being workable

Don't quite get this either. You seem to have defined a "vertical shape" and a
"horizontal shape", but what does it mean to be "vertically drawn"?

> B) Some visual indicator on the shape itself marking where the top side of
> the shape is; improving the UI feedback

How would this be useful other than for knowing how the text area behaves?


(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Sounds to me like an artificial use case.

Disagree that drawing rectangles of various shapes and rotating them is
artificial. I mean, the reproducer is a tiny document so it's always going to
feel a bit artificial.

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