Hi *,

well, I could try to step my feeds in the field of "confirming bugs" too,
given that Bugzilla and me are no best friends (too complicated by now).

So providing a BZ query in this regard would help me.
OTOH I am full with other stuff to do
even RL and/or LO related so I cannot promise so much time.

I am on Windows 10 64 Bit using LO 6.0.5.1 64 Bit too ATM.
Printer: Canon Pixma MX925 4-in-1


Am 14.06.2018 um 16:58 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas:
The idea is simply:
- what would it take to get to next levels
- how things would change in practice

I just thought I would lay that out in public, so it will hopefully inspire others to continue or get involved.

Everyone is free to draft their own plans. Personally, I am focusing on VolunteerMatch. Over the years I have tried so many ways to recruit that I've lost count and VM feels the most promising so far.

Ilmari

On 14.06.2018 17:36, dgp-m...@gmx.de wrote:
I totally agree to all ideas and concrete aims, but is there a specific plan to reach the different milestones? If this is the case, it would be great to know something more about it. If there is now specific plan: What is the idea behind your email?

Dieter


Am 13.06.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas:
The impact of the QA team has been roughly on the same level for four years and it is getting boring. Now that we have new contributors trickling in through VolunteerMatch, we have some hope of leveling up.

What does getting to the next level mean? Freedom. We will be able to learn new skills and complete projects that have been languishing in our TODOs for ages. Maybe even have time to read a book or watch a movie (I know, preposterous).

I will use unconfirmeds as a yardstick as that is something we can all easily grasp.
The assumption is that we continue to get 500-800 reports per month.
A prerequisite to leveling up is that the triaging work is spread evenly between contributors. In practice: only needing an average rate of one triaged report per day per regular tester. This would signal sustainability.

When we manage to keep the number of unconfirmeds below 100 for several months, QA will have moved to the next level.

The effects will be:
- no long periods of incomplete triaging (debug traces or bisects missing)
- more people will get into writing UI tests
- we will have time to do manual tests before releases
- we will have time to think about and improve the presentation of our work (stats, Dashboard), tech docs and the tools we use (Bugzilla etc.)

This will require roughly ten more regular contributors compared to the level of April 2018.

When we manage to slam the unconfirmeds below 50, LibreOffice itself will move to the next level.

The effects:
- nearly instant triaging of incoming reports
- veteran contributors will move more and more into fixing bugs and writing cppunit tests - QA will bleed into other teams, filling the gaps - documentation is a natural fit as testers are the first to deal with new functionality and changes

This will require twenty more regular contributors and among these there has to be power users with knowledge of macros, UNO API, databases, files over network, digital signatures and similar advanced user topics.

Ilmari
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