Hello everyone, In line with buovjaga's proposal, I would like to propose the next QA meeting ( June 26th at 15:00 UTC) to talk about more concrete actions and ideas...
For instance, we could run the week/month of QA, similar to the Month Of LibreOffice, where we could try to put the list of unconfirmed bugs to 150/200 and engage new contributors in the project... It's just an idea but it could help the team to reach the steps described by Buovjaga in a reasonable amount of time. What do you think? Regards El 14/06/18 a les 17:37, Ilmari Lauhakangas ha escrit: > Sure, the ultimate goal is that no one has to burn themselves out. If > you feel like it, use the "last month" query found here: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/GetInvolved#Find_unconfirmed_bugs > > Ilmari > > On 14.06.2018 18:33, Sophia Schröder wrote: >> Hi *, >> >> well, I could try to step my feeds in the field of "confirming bugs" >> too, >> given that Bugzilla and me are no best friends (too complicated by now). >> >> So providing a BZ query in this regard would help me. >> OTOH I am full with other stuff to do >> even RL and/or LO related so I cannot promise so much time. >> >> I am on Windows 10 64 Bit using LO 6.0.5.1 64 Bit too ATM. >> Printer: Canon Pixma MX925 4-in-1 >> >> >> Am 14.06.2018 um 16:58 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas: >>> The idea is simply: >>> - what would it take to get to next levels >>> - how things would change in practice >>> >>> I just thought I would lay that out in public, so it will hopefully >>> inspire others to continue or get involved. >>> >>> Everyone is free to draft their own plans. Personally, I am focusing >>> on VolunteerMatch. Over the years I have tried so many ways to >>> recruit that I've lost count and VM feels the most promising so far. >>> >>> Ilmari >>> >>> On 14.06.2018 17:36, dgp-m...@gmx.de wrote: >>>> I totally agree to all ideas and concrete aims, but is there a >>>> specific plan to reach the different milestones? If this is the >>>> case, it would be great to know something more about it. If there >>>> is now specific plan: What is the idea behind your email? >>>> >>>> Dieter >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 13.06.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Ilmari Lauhakangas: >>>>> The impact of the QA team has been roughly on the same level for >>>>> four years and it is getting boring. Now that we have new >>>>> contributors trickling in through VolunteerMatch, we have some >>>>> hope of leveling up. >>>>> >>>>> What does getting to the next level mean? Freedom. We will be able >>>>> to learn new skills and complete projects that have been >>>>> languishing in our TODOs for ages. Maybe even have time to read a >>>>> book or watch a movie (I know, preposterous). >>>>> >>>>> I will use unconfirmeds as a yardstick as that is something we can >>>>> all easily grasp. >>>>> The assumption is that we continue to get 500-800 reports per month. >>>>> A prerequisite to leveling up is that the triaging work is spread >>>>> evenly between contributors. In practice: only needing an average >>>>> rate of one triaged report per day per regular tester. This would >>>>> signal sustainability. >>>>> >>>>> When we manage to keep the number of unconfirmeds below 100 for >>>>> several months, QA will have moved to the next level. >>>>> >>>>> The effects will be: >>>>> - no long periods of incomplete triaging (debug traces or bisects >>>>> missing) >>>>> - more people will get into writing UI tests >>>>> - we will have time to do manual tests before releases >>>>> - we will have time to think about and improve the presentation of >>>>> our work (stats, Dashboard), tech docs and the tools we use >>>>> (Bugzilla etc.) >>>>> >>>>> This will require roughly ten more regular contributors compared >>>>> to the level of April 2018. >>>>> >>>>> When we manage to slam the unconfirmeds below 50, LibreOffice >>>>> itself will move to the next level. >>>>> >>>>> The effects: >>>>> - nearly instant triaging of incoming reports >>>>> - veteran contributors will move more and more into fixing bugs >>>>> and writing cppunit tests >>>>> - QA will bleed into other teams, filling the gaps - documentation >>>>> is a natural fit as testers are the first to deal with new >>>>> functionality and changes >>>>> >>>>> This will require twenty more regular contributors and among these >>>>> there has to be power users with knowledge of macros, UNO API, >>>>> databases, files over network, digital signatures and similar >>>>> advanced user topics. >>>>> >>>>> Ilmari >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list >>>>> Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org >>>>> Change settings: >>>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa >>>>> Problems? >>>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>>> Posting guidelines + more: >>>>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>>> List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list >>>> Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org >>>> Change settings: >>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa >>>> Problems? >>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>> Posting guidelines + more: >>>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>> List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list >>> Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org >>> Change settings: >>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ >> > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list > Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org > Change settings: > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ -- Xisco Faulí Libreoffice QA Team IRC: x1sc0 _______________________________________________ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
