Hi Allen, I'm picking on you because you SHOUTED ;-) but there are plenty of other problems in this thread, and my mail is fairly generic.
Firstly - progress is not well served by hindering, and slowing down people committing patches - yes, some things may break when things are changed, but then - the fixes should be able to get in quickly too. I was disappointed that the first developer response was not to get on IRC, talk it through, and merge it, as I've now done. It is not the end of the world to have a temporary regression in a tinderbox snapshot - we have ~six months to spot and fix it before many end-users get it. It -is- the end of the world to de-motivate, and loose developers contributing code; we need to presume contributor sanity until proven otherwise, and merge unless we know it is certainly wrong. Otherwise we will never get anywhere IMNSHO etc. Shouting about the potential loss (though in fact it is not lost), of a minor feature, available only to expert users and sysadmins, does not seem proportionate to me. Also, by delaying developers with lots of noise, quite apart from de-motivating them, we waste opportunities for using their time for other improvements to the user interface. So - in summary, there is huge danger of de-motivation, dis-couragement and sterilization of the developer community from applying indiscriminate push-back. -Particularly- if it is inexpert push-back. In this case, it seems the distinction between a -context- menu and the main menu, that is present if you read the patch (though somewhat missing from the original mail, and the naming sadly) is quite important. Ergo - I would love to end this thread for now; if a problem or regression is found in a subsequent snapshot of master (for 3.6) - it would be great to know about it at that stage, and of course testing appreciated here. Since I just pushed the changes, hopefully (all else being equal) we'll have those builds in a day or two. Anyhow - I am sure none of us intend to cause problems, delay improvements, de-motivate developers or end up shouting :-) so - hopefully we can get back to some positive work on the product. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice