Attendees: + Michael, Caolan, Kendy, Andreas, Rainer, Timar, Tor, Thorsten, Petr, Francois, Norbert, Cedric
* Completed AA's + binned dlsym'd fontconfig & non-fontconfig X font code paths (Caolan) + avoid: completely junking gnome-vfs backend & startup hooks (Caolan) + glib not built internally, and system integration issues with gio + RHEL5 & similar vintage don't have gio => gnome-vfs still needed + put Rainer in touch with Gerv (Michael) + kill Adabas integration dead in master (Francois) + disabled for a release, removed next release * AA still pending: + Easy Hacks - completion / fixing (Bjoern) + get SmartArt into master as an experimental feature (Thorsten) + remove old non-cairo cases (Caolan) + bin monochrome & paletised display support with prejudice (Caolan) * Action Items * QA feedback (Rainer) + short report concerning results of our German QA Meeting last weekend + lots of barbeque, fun, and some results + bugzilla - leave it at freedesktop.org or not ? + collect goals & required features eg. UNCONFIRMED as default & some timelines + then discuss with freedesktop guys. + concerns: wrt. compromises wrt. other projects + probably: some day, one year out ? migrate away. + decision in six months time. + eg. automated access for bug reporting agent ? + bugzilla setup easy, but upgrade / migration hard. + bug hunting ... + try bug-hunting session each month: every 1st Tuesday of a month, EU afternoon - night + wiki page coming to list details + main-page / August banner ads to encourage that + goals: to confirm / triage bugs - no hacking skills necessary + help quality + getting out of step with code changes in places + a common feeling, something should be done AA: + contact / discuss with the documentation team to find owners for help bugs (Rainer) + Timar to help out with minor cleanups / removals + Extensions repo testing / status (Andreas Mantke) + site is setup / working / published to website list + http://extensions2.libreoffice.org/ + branding work improved, not opened for new accounts yet + work on anti-spam account filtering ongoing + populate with existing Free Software extensions + contact extension authors to populate the site + readying to go live. + graphical comparison tool - update regression tests ongoing * Cross-compilation update (Tor) + what works + configure script configures for cross-compilation + make compiles native build-time tooling + then cross-compilation starts + for Windows - approx. 1/2 the way before errors, due to missing pieces in MingW + Jesus getting involved too, and re-appling GSOC 2009 work to the problem from 'build' + problematic msi creation tools, WINE ? + for iOS - gets quite far, nothing is linked + Matus' work should help here. + for Android - tries to link things, much missing from VCL etc. + hopefully gtk3 / broadway work can help GUI-wise. + to PPC Mac from Intel Mac - not tried it much, in theory the easiest target. + lots more work to do, but nothing really impossible + UI for embedded platforms requires much more work * Releng bits (Petr) + 3.3.3 post-release roundup + out last week, no known regressions filed + future of 3.3 branch (Rainer) + QA meeting tested 3.3.3 + less community interest in testing 3.3.3 + eagerness to test new features etc. + concern for wasted man-power on 3.3.x + what are our goals ? + unify distro maintenance work + keep security up-to-date + key as balance for less stable point-zero versions etc. AA: + communicate more minimal QA requirements for each release (Petr) + 3.4.1 status / roundup & 3.4.2 + fdo#38590 charts seem to be leaking meta-file descriptors as they are rendered (amazingly) - nasty. + if in 3.4.0, no regression, release note & move on. + otherwise large numbers of bugs fixed, RC2 pre-release builds ready + should get announced tomorrow * Release quality / complaints ... (Cor / Italo / Olivier) + presenters not present + extend the feature-freeze period for 3.5 ? + Norbert: may not help people fix things, just move their work to the next generation. + Petr: earlier Beta / Alpha releases ? need to be useable and QA done continuously / before freeze as well. + Norbert: 3.4 impacted by merging m106, don't have this issue next time around + Caolan: nightly builds are now working, and should help get QA access to the code, and insight into progress + Caolan: more automatic regression tests are coming too + Rainer: not much penetration in QA team of nightly snapshots, most don't know where to find them. AA: + check out nightlies, and encourage others to use (Rainer) + Nobert: treat feature-freeze as a release for QA purposes ? + Caolan: master perception - should be always ok, ready to ship at any time - not actually broken modulo occasional build issues + the future should not be as bad as the 3.4.0 panic. * Posting TSC minutes on the blog ... + Norbert: wording is very terse, not enough context, not suitable for mass public consumption. + Suggestion: needs to be expanded, and made more comprehensible, someone who wants that can/should do it. * library merging plan (Matus) + didn't make it to the call * gettext - should we use it for everything ? + punt until next time ... need: Caolan, Bjoern + preliminary thoughts: + if no slower - cold / warm start + if no bigger - bloating codebase + then should use it, otherwise as a fallback. + is fallback mode useful for translators ? + not so useful for entirely new language because the code needs lots of touching + could be useful for established translators who want to check their work quickly * Norbert's whitespace cleaning C app AA: + review it ASAP (Kendy, Tor) + is the speed / correctness trade-off right ? + speedup is 2x orders of magniture over sed on a 36hr conversion + Tor: how fast is 'expand' as an alternative ? -- michael.me...@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice