On 12/01/17 15:22, Adam Van Ymeren wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Fabián Rodríguez > <magic...@member.fsf.org> wrote: >> >> >> On 12/01/17 03:12 AM, Catonano wrote: >>> Today, january 12, only 454 pledges have been made to the Talos proect >>> crowdunding campaign page. >>> >>> https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation >>> >>> This is not just a missed target. This is something more, as if there >>> was a reection of the proect. >>> >>> The freedom sensble community is small, yes, but not this small. >>> >>> What's going on ? >>> >> >> I'll share my impressions since you asked: >> >> * Give $10 or $250 - no options in-between >> * No T-shirts, no stickers >> * 6 months shared SSH-access for 250$? >> * Absurd amount of information to digest in every update (even for me) >> >> Setting up a smaller goal, usable rewards and easier-to-digest updates >> would have helped a lot. Now this only looks like another failed >> out-of-touch-with-reality project. >> >> As it is, I didn't even contribute $10 as I had the distinct impression >> the project would fail. How can I ever advocate this? > > You were convinced they would fail if they got funding? Or convinced > they would fail to get their desired funding? > >> >> I have given / donated generously to many Free software projects and >> organizations (including the FSF) and have often convinced others to do >> so (even refering new people to join >> http://www.fsf.org/associate/referrers/referrerlist ) but honestly Talos >> was outside of anything I could refer, in any way. > > I really wanted Talos to succeed, but I think the core issue is the > pieces were just too expensive $3700 just for a mainboard not > including the CPU. >
They probably need to try and offer similar pricing to other high-end workstations such as HP Z series. > They raised over twice as the EOMA68 project which was also freedom > respecting. (https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop). > > $3.7 million was just too big of a target. > Not necessarily - to raise significant sums like that, projects may need to plan some pitches to larger institutions and not simply rely on anonymous private donors to spontaneously materialize. Regards, Daniel