I believe in buying local if at all possible. Sometimes, that doesn't work or doesn't really make sense (like if i tried to grow all my tropical fruit in a greenhouse) Part of the problem is that also many things are shipped around the world, I mean, computer chips don't exactly grow on trees. They are made overseas somewhere in factories and I have no idea where. I would suggest buying from the most local place you can for your libreboot laptop. If there isn't a local one, in your country or geographic area, I think it is perfectly fine to buy an overseas one. That is one of the reason why I do not support the abuse of copyright to prevent people from printing stuff in their own countries. I do try to practice what I preach (and I try not to be an annoying preacher alienating people with impractical ideologies.) I am a member of a CSA, community supported agriculture. I think that is an interesting business model that software developers should look into if they want to make a living from software development without resorting to the proprietary model for "the long tail" of software, that is, software that is not general purpose but has a specialized niche audience, (an area where there is often way to much proprietary software, particularly software targeted at non-technical people who just want to get stuff done, and not spend hours writing code.)
On Friday, November 20, 2020, 1:04:22 PM EST, Yoni Rabkin <y...@rabkins.net> wrote: [1]thi...@softwarelivre.net.br writes: > Hey there! > > Although I do support this kind of initiative (of new Libreboot laptop > stores), and I am a supporter of libreboot / coreboot as well as Free > Libre / Open Source Hardware, I would like to ask you all here: > > Couldn't we have more popular prices? What do we have to do to boost > more popular projects? > > I mean, it's awesome the new store, but after opening it, I felt the > same disappointment from before. I still wait for more popular & fair > options. Who can & will pay for a retro with such prices? I can't, so > seeing such stores feels like a distant dream. > > I am from a foreign country, with its money devalued in comparison to > your currencies. These prices are for rich gringos, for your own people > and not for a broader community. I will never have the chance to get a > Librebooted ThinkPad from any of the sellers I know (and I would like > to support you) simply because it becomes too expensive. I bet there > are lots of young (or older) free software/hardware enthusiasts fom the > UK that can't pay for these laptops, and no relativisms can make such > prices seem fair. > > The community, I guess, lacks very much options for getting popular > Librebooted ThinkPads. How to help expanding free software and hardware > in scenarios like this? These prices are over, so we will never support > your stores because we can't. We can just try to do it ourselves, > paying fair prices getting used pieces (just as yours) from people that > doesn't know that there are companies selling it for much more because > it is "libreboot". > > Even when it comes to offering the service of installing Libreboot or > whatever, I just see obscene prices. I buy a compatible ThinkPad with > less than you (several stores) want to charge just for the service. > > Where are we going? Do we want to make things more popular and make the > whole strong, or do we want a small community of FSF members and > Librebooted laptop owners?! The prices Leah lists are fair. Please remember that when you see a "cheap" price of a laptop somewhere it is because that corporation is subjugating people to bring that price down; the people who built that laptop do not partake in the profits. An inexpensive and shiny new laptop is just the vanguard of an oppressive system, or a rich corporation/government giving out "charity" in order to gain control over people. Please don't compare Leah's prices to those. I realize that this explains the situation but does nothing to solve it. This is because what you are pointing out is the broader problem of world-wide income inequality. I can't solve that problem, and neither can Leah, but Leah is not making it any worse by offering services to some. I agree that the situation as a whole is ugly and unfair. But I don't want blame apportioned to people who are doing good. -- "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice" _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [2]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [3]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss References 1. mailto:thi...@softwarelivre.net.br 2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 3. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
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