Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:31:12 +1000
From: Dan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: in car power supply
Hey Neil,
I didn't think you were having a go, this sort of thing
is a great topic of discussion and I am always fascinated to hear what
other users do with their Libs... There aren't many of us here in Australia!
My father perked his ears up at the oscilloscope... What software
and hardware is there apart from our little friend? He is a service tech
working with commercial catering equipment in restaurants all over
Australia..
Both he and I are Poms, used to live in Reading, Berkshire....
Best Regards,
Dan Baker.
neil barnes wrote:
> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 06:09:18
> From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: in car power supply
>
> Heya Dan,
>
> I wasn't sniping at you in the other comments regarding power supplies
> etc :) It's one of those things...if you do it, it will probably work
> ok...but it might blow first time. In particular, I'd expect to find
> older cars to be worse than more modern ones though in both cases, the
> cig lighter is usally wired straight from the fusebox...
>
> I very rarely use mine in the car - when I do, I have a car->12v dc
> converter from a previous laptop which I use with the kicker to get it
> to start. It's around 80-90% efficient IIRC. I'm waiting for someone
> to produce a decent car radio which can read data cds with mp2/3 files
> as well as normal CDs (it has to have DAB, with intelligent default to
> RDS FM, as well, and it has to cost no more than a couple of hundred
> quids!)
>
> My background is broadcast engineering, where I expect to design
> equipment with 15-20 year lifespans, so like most of my colleagues I
> tend to be a very conservative designer. I don't run things near their
> power ratings if I can possibly avoid it :)
>
> THe lib gets used all round the world on my travels, including use as
> an oscilloscope/signal generator and network debugger, and I write
> code on it too...
>
>> From: Dan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: in car power supply
>> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:30:24 -0700
>>
>> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:26:04 +1000
>> From: Dan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: in car power supply
>>
>> G'Day Neil,
>> All the info I have came from Dr. Xin's site
>> www.fixup.net in the cool tips section, I know what everyone is saying
>> about dirty power from both motorbikes and cars. I know I was taking a
>> risk in plugging my little libby in to the car but I did and it
>> survived, so did all the others that are talked about on Xin's site...
>> For me the Libretto is impractical as a desktop machine, it's
>> just too small, but in combination with a GPS it is brilliant for in-car
>> navigation as well as hiking and camping. The cost of extended batteries
>> (I would love a couple!) is insane, especially when one Australian
>> Dollar is worth half a U.S. and a third of a Pound! The libby cost me
>> $800 Australian including C.D Rom, network and modem card. This was very
>> cheap and I could not pass it up. However, batteries are $140 for normal
>> and $220 for extended, I cannot justify even one...
>> I was put on to Xin's site and found the cheater circuit there to
>> trick the beast into accepting 12 Votls as an input. The photos on the
>> site and replies from users all over the world convinced me it was safe
>> (replies are in the cool talk section). The battery is fused as is the
>> Libby itself and the where's and how-to's of repairing a broken fuse are
>> all shown and described.
>> As I said, I understand all of the concerns and negatives of
>> doing what I do, but having done it now for two plus years I am happy
>> with what I am doing and will quite happily point people in the
>> direction of Xin's site. It is the only practical means for me to use
>> the Libretto's functionality.
>> I do have an inveter mounted in my 4x4, and have on occasion
>> used that to power the Libretto, however the current consumption, as I
>> am sure you know, is well up compared to a direct connection.
>> What are your thoughts on all of this Neil? How do you power your
>> unit and what do you use it for mainly?
>>
>> I would be interested to hear from other users as to their uses
>> and means in regards to their Librettos.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Dan Baker.
>>
>> neil barnes wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 05:30:59
>>> From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: in car power supply
>>>
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> I'd be very happy to see the schematics for the intenal PSU of the lib
>>> - can you point me at them, or email, please?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Dan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Subject: Re: in car power supply
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:35:24 -0700
>>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 14:32:34 +1000
>>>> From: Dan Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Subject: Re: in car power supply
>>>>
>>>> I understand where you are coming from pres, but the libretto 50 has
>>>> plenty of filtration of its own... the charger is built in to the unit
>>>> and if you check the schematics can happily take 16.6 volts, yes your
>>>> car can produce a surge greater than this voltage but it is very,
>>>> very,
>>>> rare....
>>>> There are 20+ people I know who regularly use there 50 ct's in car
>>>> via a cig socket, sure fuse it for a bit of extra safety but it is
>>>> quite
>>>> fine...
>>>> Yes, spend $50.00 and get an inverter (a lot of which aren't much
>>>> safer than your car anyway), if you are uncomfortable with the direct
>>>> plug-in.
>>>> All I was relaying was that I know plenty of people who do it and I
>>>> am one of them... No probs my end for two plus years now...
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Dan Baker.
>>>
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