Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:47:02 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

Or wait till xp for pads come out.. 

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From: Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:52 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and


Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:45:22 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

At 09:15 AM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:46 +0000
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and
>
>Raymond, you wrote:
>
>Actually I'd have to disagree ... just because we've used pens for so 
>long doesn't
>mean its necessarily the right way of using your muscles (notice all
those pens out 
>there that are designed to help muscle cramps for instance). Besides
which using a 
>Windows PC requires at least 4 input signals, (pointer move, pointer
drag, pointer 
>action, pointer secondary action), at least 3 for a Mac and at least 5
for an X 
>interface. A pen by itself can really only provide one (hence why the
Palmax has 
>buttons on the rear left of the panel and other tablet-pen type devices
have buttons 
>on the pen itself, a situation that isn't really terrifically ergonomic
as the 
>forefinger is the only one that can really press buttons in a pen
situation and that 
>affects accuracy). 
>
>Raymond,
>
>my Jornada uses a stylus with no other signals than the pressing point 
>on the touchscreen, and I do not need buttons. I am not experienced 
>with the technics, but why do one need the buttons of the Palmax, when 
>one can press simply the pen on the screen like I do with my Jornada?

Windows CE, PocketPC, PalmOS and so on were designed knowing that the
user can only have 1 inputs enabling click for select (as well as double
click, triple click and so on) and in some cases drag for dragging.
Notice you can't right-click or mouse-over on such operating systems.

Windows for 'real' PCs was designed to have at least 4 inputs being the
independant mouse move (which triggers mouseovers and the like), the
left click for select (as well as the double/triple click), the right
click for context and the left drag for dragging. Some programs also use
the right drag, the 2 button click and the 2 button drag. It gets even
more complicated for Linux.

Its more a case of what the OS was designed to use ... it'd probably be
easier on a mac which was designed with only 1 mouse button where the
only thing you'd miss is the independant mouse move (you'll still have
your single button clicks and could emulate drags).


- Raymond

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