Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:45:03 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code

Dear Matt,
thank you for the hint and the link to the manual.

You wrote: > Well... from what I can figure out from the service manual, that sequence
> of blinks should indicate a battery pack problem where the, "Battery
> voltage is over the limit."


This is, what it likes to be. I can accept this, for the older battery. Maybe it has been too long charging.
The new battery has at all pins 0,0 V.
But, when examining the batteries, I found out, that both batteries have not the original capacty of 2600 mh.
I bought them later as spare parts. One has 2800mh, the new one has 3000mh. But the imprint says, that they are
for the libretto 20 .. 70. They have the correct partnumber PA 2498U R.
Eddie McClanahan wrote in his last mail from 10.2. what complex electronic relations are between the libretto charging unit
and the batteries. Maybe the higher capacity causes the fault. ??? I'm still a little bit confused.
I wrote to the supplier, maybe he has an answer or sends me an other batterie to test.
I'll informe you.
With kind regards
J�rgen


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2.3 Power Supply Troubleshooting

The power supply controls many functions and components. To determine if
the power supply is functioning properly, start with Procedure 1 and
continue with the other Procedures as instructed. The procedures described
in this section are:

Procedure 1: Power Status Check
Procedure 2: Error Code Check
Procedure 3: Connection Check
Procedure 4: Replacement Check

Procedure 1 Power Status Check

The following icons indicate the power supply status:

q Battery icon
q DC IN icon

The power supply controller displays the power supply status through the
Battery and the DC IN icons as shown in the tables below.

Table 2-1 Battery icon
======================

Battery icon Power supply status
============ ===================
Lights orange Quick charge *1
Lights green Battery has a full charge and the AC adapter is connected
Blinks orange The battery level becomes low while operating the
computer on
(even intervals) battery power*2
Doesn't light Any condition other than those above. If the battery
becomes too hot charging will stop and the battery icon
will go out even if the AC adapter is connected


*1 One of two battery levels becomes low.
*2 AutoResume Off will be executed soon.

Table 2-2 DC IN icon
====================

DC IN icon        Power supply status
==========        ===================

Lights green      DC power is being supplied from the AC adapter
Blinks orange     Power supply malfunction*3
Blinks green      Stand-by state
Doesn't light     Any condition other than those above

*3 When the power supply controller detects a malfunction, the DC IN icon
blinks and an error code is displayed.

To check the power supply status, install a battery pack and connect an AC
adapter.

Check 1 If the DC IN icon flashes orange, go to Procedure 2.
Check 2 If the DC IN icon does not light, go to Procedure 3.
Check 3 If the Battery icon does not light orange or green, go to Procedure
4.


CAUTION: Use only an AC adapter that is manufactured specifically for the
Libretto 50CT/70CT. If you use a different AC adapter, the computer's power
supply may malfunction or a fuse on the system board may be blown.


Procedure 2 Error Code Check
============================

If the microprocessor detects a malfunction, the DC IN icon blinks orange.
The blink pattern indicates an error as shown below.

[X] Start Off for 2 seconds
[X] Error code (8 bit)

"1": On for one second
"0": On for half second
Interval between data bits:  Off for half second

Error codes begin with the least significant digit. For example:

Error code 12h (Error codes are given in hexadecimal)


<----------------Read----------

On:  ------|    |-| |--| |-| |-| |--|_|-|_|-|_|-|
Off:       |____|0|_|1 |_|0|_|0|_|1 |_|0|_|0|_|0|___

          Start^ -------------Order----------->

            Bit 0   1    2   3   4    5   6   7



[X][X] Check 1 Convert the DC IN icon blink pattern into the hexadecimal
error code and compare it to the tables below.



[X] DC power supplied through AC adapter
======================================

Error code      Meaning
==========      =======

01h             AC adapter voltage is over the limit (16.5 V)


[X] Battery pack ================

Error code     Meaning
==========     =======

10h            Battery voltage is over the limit
11h            Battery charge current is over the limit
12h            Battery discharge current is over the maximum allowed
              limit when there is no load
13h            Battery voltage is under the limit


[X] B5V,VCC output ==================

Error code     Meaning
==========     =======

20h            VCC voltage is over the limit
21h            VCC voltage is under the limit
22h            VCC does not start up when power supply is turned on


[X] B3V output ==============

Error code     Meaning
==========     =======

30h            B3V voltage is over the limit
31h            B3V voltage is under the limit
33h            B3V does not start up when the power supply is turned on


[X] Power supply microcontroller ================================

Error code     Meaning
==========     =======

50h            Firmware or program error


[X] CPU environmental condition ===============================

Error code     Meaning
==========     =======

80h            CPU temperature is outside the allowable range
88h            CPU overheat
              (The CPU heat sensor has detected overheating and
              has automatically shut down)


[X][X] Check 2 If error code 01h displays:

[X] Be sure the AC adapter is firmly connected to the computer DC IN socket
and to the power source. If these cables are connected correctly, go to the
following step:


[X] Replace the AC adapter with a new one.
If the error still exists, go to Procedure 4.


[X][X] Check 3 If error code 10h displays:

[X] Make sure the battery pack is correctly installed in the computer.
If it is, go to the following step:

[X] Replace the battery pack with a new one.
If the error still exists, go to Procedure 4.


[X][X] Check 4 When 88h displays, it indicates that the CPU temperature is outside the allowable operating range. Do the following:

[X] Leave the computer in an area that is about room temperature until the
CPU's internal temperature is within the allowable operating range.
If the error still exists, go to Procedure 4.


[X][X]Check 5 If error code 11h displays:

[X] Go to Procedure 3.


[X][X] Check 6 For any other error, go to Procedure 4.





----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code



> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:45:06 -0800 (PST) > From: Matt Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code > > J�rgen... I had the AC plug in my 50CT fail just a few weeks back. I > wonder if you're having the same problem. > > I pluged in the AC cord without the battery inserted, and the system > started to boot, but then suddenly shut down. I looked into the Libby's > AC > socket, and found that I could move one of the metal connectors. I took > the system apart, and found that the plastic socket had broken into 2 > pieces. I just haven't gotten around to epoxying the two halves back > together. > > I wonder if what you're seeing is the same broken AC connector that > sometimes makes a connection with the power cord, and sometimes doesn't. > The batteries then sometimes getting charged, and then going dead and > causing the blinking LEDs?? > > Matt > > > --- J�rgen Sch�ll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:33:52 +0100 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?=) >> Subject: Charging problem on 50ct Error code >> >> >> Hello folks, maybe someone can help me. >> Yesterday my beloved libretto suddenly crashed. >> Everything went dark, the battery led was dark, only the DC-IN led >> flashes. >> The libretto was connected with the AC adapter to the wall socket, a 2600 >> mh battery was in the libretto. >> The led flashes an error code - I suppose: After 2 seconds off at the >> start, there are 4 short flashes, then >> comes 1 long flash (1 second) und then follow 3 short flashes. Then again >> 2 seconds dark, 4 short flashes and so on. >> It looks like 0000 1 000. Is this a binary signal? What is the meaning? >> The AC- adapter seems to be ok. It gives 15,08 V and I can use the >> libretto with the small batteries (1300 hm). >> The charging of this small batteries is ok. I can use the libretto >> without any battery, only withe the AC-adapter. >> I tried a totally new battery (2600 mh), all went dark, I can't charge >> it. I tried a small older battery, everything seemd to be ok. >> Today morning I retried an older 2600 mh battery, which caused yesterday >> the same faults. >> Now the charging led lights orange, everything seems allright. >> When I insert another older battery, which produced the evening before >> the above mentioned faults, everything went dark, only the error code >> flashes. >> When I insert the new uncharged battery (2600 mh) nothing goes, the DC-in >> led flashes the error code. >> When I unplug the libretto, replug ist and then insert an 1300 mh battery >> everything goes. >> The batteries, which work, have a voltage of 12,5 V at the most outward >> contacts and 11,97 V between >> contact 1 and 3. The batteries, that don't work have slightly different >> voltages: 12,53 most outward, 12,03 between contact 1 and 3. >> I don't think that matters. >> I have no idea, what is wrong. >> The contacts of the batteries are ok. Not all 2600 mh batteries are >> broken. The AC-adapter charges (but only small batteries). >> >> Cheers >> >> J�rgen > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > >










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