Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:16:28 +1000
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] PCMCIA Power & GPS

At 07:58 AM 1/06/2005 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 13:47:25 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PCMCIA Power & GPS

List folk,

I've been using my L100 as a GPS-routing software tool, using MS Streets &
Trips or Street Atlas or Autoroute, and a Garmin Etrex Venture GPS receiver.
The Etrex PC interface is serial, and I use a cable that splits to a 9-pin
connector and a DC cigaret lighter power supply, which powers the Etrex as well as
enabling communication with the Libretto.

I recently bought a Holux "mouse" GPS receiver, which has no display and is
meant strictly to operate with a PC. It uses a USB connection, providing both
signal and power.

Problem is this: the Belkin PCMCIA/USB2 card I use in the Libretto to provide
USB ports doesn't pass enough amps to the GPS through the PCMCIA connection.
The GPS works perfectly when connected to the USB port on the enhanced
replicator, and on other laptops with integrated USB ports. And it will work with
the Belkin adapter if I use the Belkin external power supply.

The whole idea of the Holux GPS was to do away with some of the cabling mess
inside the vehicle.  And I'd prefer not the have to use the L100 dock because
of size.  Is there a way to increase the output to the PCMCIA slot?
Alternatively, are some PCMCIA/USB cards higher output/efficiency than others? This problem is odd, as I have an IBM external hard drive that runs strictly off the
Libretto's PCMCIA interface, no external power required.  Yet this
no-moving-parts GPS needs more juice than a hard drive?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Lee

The problem here is that a lot of USB PCMCIA cards (actually, all of them in my experience) only run in low power (100mA) mode unless they have an external power input (some cards have a jack where you can apply 5V or 12V and kick the card into high power mode). In theory, this is actually done in software/firmware (in theory, the device boots up in 100mA mode and sends a request to the USB hub asking for more power, which the hub has the option of denying ... if the request is granted, only then should the device start to draw up to 500mA). Of course, I'm able to pull about an amp out of my laptop USB ports (a big Dell Inspiron) without even touching the data lines and it doesn't seem to flinch (or browning out the supply), perhaps they're wising up to all these people running USB powered phone chargers, lights, fans and coffee cup warmers :-)

Now the PCMCIA port *should* be able to provide a lot of power (500mA at least, I *believe* it's rated to at least an amp on surge) but for some weird and wonderful reason USB PCMCIA cards don't take advantage of this. When I used my Libretto lots, I made a modification that allowed me to plug an external PS/2 keyboard and mouse in (see my webpage), and as part of that I tapped the internal 5V rail (which I've drawn in excess of 500mA from without problems) ... so when I needed to run high powered USB devices, I tapped 5V from there to supplement the USB power (in my case I was running USB hard drives).

If you're handy with a soldering iron, I recon it's a modification that's worth doing anyway - it gives you the option of using an external mouse without using the EPR and it gives you the opportunity to tap 5V to run things like the GPS.

If you don't want to do that, your options probably come down to things like PCMCIA GPS units or the EPR. As a compromise though, if you also have the docking bar, you can draw 5V from the PS/2 ports on that without any dramas and is probably a little less bulky to keep around than the EPR ...


- Raymond


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