Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:43:09 +0100
From: "Jon DuQueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player choppy / memory usage / which 
windows components

Maybe it's some unnecessary windows component using up memory? I selected
typical install not laptop/portable, I wanted a bunch of stuff that wasn't
in laptop default components. When I was installing it looked like the
laptop/portable option was just to save disk space not CPU & memory?

I'll have a play with it later. Think I saw some XP style task / memory
manager (some Russian app?) online somewhere? might show what processes are
using the memory up.

>You didn't mention anything about sound in DOS for Doom.  Did that in fact 
>work for you?

Yes doom 2 worked fine without any sound driver, although I've had the sound
die a couple of times mid game. I just copied the folder straight from
backup of an old machine. Maybe it was because the sound config was already
setup for my old machine and worked the same? Or doom 2 uses updated sound
component?

> You're looking at those settings in the Toshiba 'Power Saving
>Properties'... right?

Yes

>Is that with no apps running?  I'm not quite sure what you've got System 
>Monitor set to, but with 'Add Item > Kernal > Processor Usage (%)' set on
>my 70, and nothing running. I'm getting a green line that is maxed at 100%.
>It seems to stay there when I run apps too.  I don't see a setting in SM 
>specifically for idle CPU usage.

Yes 'Add Item > Kernal > Processor Usage (%)', Just checked again still only
10% when idle (just a bumpy red line along the bottom on mine). 'Memory
Manager->Allocated Memory' is 36.6MB, 'Swapfile in use' is 0 MB and 'unused
physical memory' is 2.6MB ish. Strange that yours reads 100%, maybe some
background app eating up spare CPU cycles.

>With nothing running, SM shows about 5Mb unused physical memory on my 70.  
>I'll admit, I'm not sure what that represents.  When I open Eudora, that 
>drops to near zero.  Starting Winamp, it stays at zero.  But closing Winamp

>causes it to pop up to 3.7Mb.  Then closing Eudora pushes it up to 8.8Mb.

When computer runs out of physical memory it starts using the 'swapfile'
(virtual memory on the hard drive) which is much slower. Looks like I may
have some extra windows components eating up some memory, don't think they
all show in crappy 98 task manager. How may colours do you run windows in,
I'm currently using 16 bit in windows and 222K in bios.


Jon D

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 October 2005 04:01
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player

Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:59:32 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Libretto 70CT - mp3 player

>From: "Jon DuQueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I've got 32MB RAM and I'm trying to play 192kbps mp3's.
>
>Windows media player 6 maxes out the CPU with 4.8MB unused physical memory
>and sounds very choppy. Win 5.x wouldn't play mp3's. I tried Windows media
>player 9 but it was hopeless. Winamp 2.8 just about plays ok with 75% CPU
>and maxed out physical memory. VLC media player is just as bad as Windows
>media player 6.
>
>I have tried killing everything in task manager but doesn't make any
>difference, not much running anyway since it's a new install.

Wow.... I'm stumped now.  I've read posts from people having similar 
problems with their Libbys and have never understood it.  Why should one 
70CT system loaded with W98SE play audio fine, and another not??

You didn't mention anything about sound in DOS for Doom.  Did that in fact 
work for you?

>I checked
>Toshiba power save and processor is set to full speed.

You're looking at those settings in the Toshiba 'Power Saving Properties'...

right?

>Idle CPU 10% and
>unused physical Memory 2.4Mb (using system monitor). Is this normal
>performance for a 70CT?

Is that with no apps running?  I'm not quite sure what you've got System 
Monitor set to, but with 'Add Item > Kernal > Processor Usage (%)' set on my

70, and nothing running. I'm getting a green line that is maxed at 100%. It 
seems to stay there when I run apps too.  I don't see a setting in SM 
specifically for idle CPU usage.

With nothing running, SM shows about 5Mb unused physical memory on my 70.  
I'll admit, I'm not sure what that represents.  When I open Eudora, that 
drops to near zero.  Starting Winamp, it stays at zero.  But closing Winamp 
causes it to pop up to 3.7Mb.  Then closing Eudora pushes it up to 8.8Mb.

I'll confess again that I'm not one of the more technically informed people 
on the Lib list here.  Philip, David, Raymond and a number of other regulars

are a lot better at this stuff than I.

And I'm really not quite sure what all you're looking at there.  Anyone else

see something that's not clicking for me here?

>is there anything I can do to improve mp3 playback?
>Could any bios settings be having an affect on performance.

No... there's nothing BIOS can help with to my knowledge.

>Tried playing an mpeg video (16MB / 3 min) in windows media player 6 and
>computer locked up... Maybe I have just reached the performance limit of
>this machine.

Well.. I just loaded an old 3 minut 50MB .mpg file onto my 70 to confirm 
what I was pretty sure about.  It plays as it did before, good audio but 
choppy video just as I remembered.  But it didn't lock up.  Video files are 
extremely finicky.  Especially newer .avi DivX and Xvid encoded files.  
Those two can cripple a more powerful system that's got problems with system

resources.  The Mpeg you have may be too much for the 70 to handle.  
Download Gspot and check to see that the system has the proper codecs 
installed to support the mpeg file you're trying to play.

But I did just encounter a video/audio problem playing that .mpg on my 70 
I've never gotten resolved.  I keep getting mouse conflicts with multimedia 
playback on both my 70 and 100.  As long as the file plays the mouse is 
useless.  I have to use the keyboard to control both Winamp and WMP.  Really

frustrating.

>Don't want to try overclocking just yet, soldering in a
>machine I only just got is a little scary.

You know... I've found that reinstalling Windows 98 can fix things after a 
previous successful installation fails to run things properly.  You may want

to try that again.  Otherwise I'm sure some other list members will have 
some feedback for you.

>Will Office 2000 run ok?

That's a question for someone else.

Matt

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