Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:11:18 -0800
From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin
Hello Joseph...
Question 1. I don't know. <?> I can't remember what I do at this point.
I have done this procedure several different ways depending one what
programs I had available to do it in. Maybe someone else can offer a
suggestion.
The last time I did this procedure I used some hard drive setup program
that didn't like the librettos formatting. My solution was this.
Created max size partition in the libretto. Moved the drive to other
computer with EZ-Drive or something similar. "Looked" at the drive to see
where it (EZ etc) says the end of the Libretto-Created partition. Wrote
that postion down and deleted that Libretto Created partition, then
completely re-created all three new partitions with the EZ-Drive type
software inside the desktop computer.
I remember creating a boot disk and using the "sys" command to transfer
the
system files from the floppy to the hard drive.
Question 2. Sounds like the first partition isn't set to active. The
software(s) I usually use set the partition to active and tell me to
reboot
though...
In case I left this out or you didn't know, a very important note is that
you don't run fdisk inside the Libretto again! You will lose the other
partitions beyond 8.X gig. Any program that tries to use the Libretto
BIOS
to alter the tables of the hard drive will wipe out the other areas. It
is
best to rename or remove fdisk from your libretto after installation.
Keep asking and maybe I can help you get this thing going! I have not
done
this procedure in a while and I have done it different ways, so it is hard
to be really specific. I am trying though.
John Martin
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From: Joseph [SMTP:]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:00 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] John Martin
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:58:37 -0700
From: "Joseph" < >
Subject: Re: [LIB] John Martin
Hi John...thank you for responding!
2 Issues:
1. Step1, Fdisk to (FAT32)
Here it only does FAT16. How can I format to FAT32?
2. Step3, I reformat the first 8GB using FAT32, creat 100mg and creat the
rest of the HD, apply, delet 100mg.
Problem is after formatting, it changes drive letters to (I) and (J). I
create a folder on (I) for Win98 files, place HD back in 110, boot off DOS
floppy, and can't see any partitions.
Thanks.
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:42:05 -0800
From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin
Hello Joseph...
I apologize for not responding to your message. I was unable to respond
within a day, and someone else copied and pasted my original post of
Libretto Large Hard Drive installation and I thought that would be
enough.
Sorry about that.
I will answer your questions as best I can...
Question 1: Yes, one method you could use is to copy the Win98 CD files
to
your hard drive (I put mine in C:\WINCD for instance) and install it from
the hard drive once the formatted drive is inside the libretto.
Question 2: I install Win98 on the C: drive all default. (e.g.
C:\Windows)
This reduces complications with programs that do not work correctly with
alternate installation directories or drives.
Question3: I don't completely understand this question, but believe yes.
I decide what to install into my C: Drive based on the 8 gig limitation
and keep all else on the D: drive.
Question 4: Yes, you must have an area where the Libretto can write its
hibernation data. There are alternate methods, but I chose to format the
drive with three partitions of 8.X Gig, (defined by the Libretto BIOS),
150meg (just to be safe) and then the rest of the drive in the third
partition. Before installation into the Libretto I delete the middle
partition and I am left with C: (being 8.X gig defined by the Libretto
BIOS) and D: being the remainder of the drive.
Hope this helps. I am going to paste in my original post here for
reference.
****begin paste****
Because I learned about how to work around this hibernation area from
this
system and so many helpful Libretto users, I will share my preferred
method
of formatting drives around the hibernation area on Libretto 100 and
110CT's. I have done this for others many times now.
The methods seems SO complicated compared to just formatting a hard
drive,
but trust me, these guys know what they are talking about. It is
necessary. After a LOT of experimentation I only have a lot of respect
for
most everyone who offered me (and many others) ideas on how to work
around
this hard drive hibernation area on Libretto's.
Here is the method I use. It requires a second computer with bios
ability
to see beyond the Libretto's. Most any Pentium 2 Class and up is a sure
thing.) I use an adapter to plug the 2.5" drives into the full size EIDE
cable of the second computer.
I have used this method many times now with my two Libretto's (100CT and
110CT) so I don't know about any other models. I have also done this
more
than a dozen times now for others Libretto's.
1. First I use fdisk to set up the drive to its maximum size INSIDE the
Libretto. It will be "about" 8Gig"
This to me is the most logical step because any "issues" with the
Libretto
bios become irrelevant because the bios in question IS making the
partition. No figuring out where to leave a hibernation hole etc.
2. Then I remove the drive from the Libretto and install the adapter and
place it into the second computer as a secondary drive.
3. I normally use Western Digital Lifeguard Tools usually, but other
programs for setting up drives will probably work fine. I use this
software to set up the remaining space on the drive into two partitions.
The first partition I just set up as 100 meg or so. The second partition
I set up as the rest of the drive.
4. Reboot and verify the partitions. (this just insures they were
writing
to disk) Now I DELETE the 100 meg partition. This insures an Operating
System doesn't try to format and use it. This 100 meg area insures there
is plenty of space between usable partitions for the Librettos
hibernation.
Because the Libretto itself set up the original "8 gig" partition, the
END
of this partition is sure to be in the "right place" relative to the
Libretto Hibernation. I know the hibernation might only need to be
smaller, but is "easier" to be safe and besides that, I think the
software
I have used has a minimum size I can make the partition. Haven't set one
up in a few months.
An important note I did realize years ago after several drive
corruption's!
You can not turn off the Librettos hibernation function. It can be
triggered by hardware independent of your OS for thermal overload and low
battery conditions. SO no matter your OS, IF the Libretto tries to
hibernate, it goes as far as the BIOS (specifically) can see (8.X gig)
and
starts it write. Instant data corruption. If I had ONLY known this
years
ago it would have saved me so much time formatting and replacing data.
I have successfully done the above on more than a dozen Libretto 100CT's
and 110CT's with basically every hard drive brand I have seen. It has
been
used on drives from 15gig to 100gig.
I run Windows 98 on my Librettos but I have set this up for persons with
other OS's. I do not install their OS's, I just set up the partitions
and
make them DOS bootable.
It isn't as difficult as it looks at first. I can do this in a few
minutes
now.
If you need any specifics for any of the above, just email me and I will
do
my best to assist you further. Most likely everything I have typed is
somewhere else in this system though. I learned it all here.
Good Luck
John Martin
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From: Joseph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:18 AM
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] John Martin
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:19:53 -0700
From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: John Martin
John,
I sent you an e-mail regarding your kind offer, received no response.
Are you still offering to reply to this message, if you have the time
that
is?!
Thanks.
Joseph
Question:
1. The Win98SE CD contents need to be copied to [D:], hard drive is then
placed in the 110, then from the Dos prompt setup is run?
2. OS is installed to the 8GB partition [C:]?
3. Any other software is then installed to [D:] drive?
4. There should be a space buffer of 100 meg between the first 8GB and
the
rest of the hard drive?
5. In the end there should be two drive letters, [C:] and [D:]?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: RE: [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:11:30 -0800
From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE)
Hello Joseph...
I am heading out the door to go to work, but when I get back tonight I
will
reply to this message with a short description and some links
You don't necessarily need a drive overlay. It depends on which method
you
use of setting up your hard drive.
One partition is not generally possible with a drive over roughly 8GB in
a
Libretto 110CT due to the hibernation routines needing that area to
write
hibernation area data into.
More complete reply later...
John Martin
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From: Joseph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:11 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:08:53 -0700
From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE)
Greetings:
I want to upgrade to a Western Digital Scorpio 120GB HD, running
Win98SE,
and have MS DOS 6.22 as well on a 110CT
1. Do I need a drive overlay?
2. What is the steps for installing both MS DOS 6.22 and Win98SE?
I have tried FDISK, Installing MS DOS 6.22, then atemping to get the
CD-Rom
to be recognized to install Win, but could not see the CD-Rom.
I want to keep things as simple as possible, one partion, no overlay if
possible, etc.
Thank you.
Joseph
