Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:01:25 -0800 From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin
I can not help with Partition Magic... : ( I use much simpler programs like Segate or Western Digital hard drive installation softwares. I do not understand having specific drive letters assigned though. Another thing I can't remember is if I let the Libretto format the partitions or if I formatted them before I put them in. My understanding is that the Libretto can't create the partitions, but I don't recall any issues with it formatting them. Maybe I created only the partitions in the desktop and then formatted them inside the Libretto from a boot floppy. Remember if you load Fdisk inside the libretto to look at the partitions, don't allow it to change anything. I will think about it at work today and respond tonight if I can think of anything that might help. (working 12 to 14 hour days right now) John Martin ================================== ---------- From: Joseph [SMTP:] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:30 PM To: Libretto Subject: Re: [LIB] John Martin Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:28:55 -0700 From: "Joseph" < > Subject: Re: [LIB] John Martin The problem is that Partition Magic once it formats, assigns specific drive letters, and I can't assign C: to the 8GB since the host computer has a C: drive already. So when I place it back in the 110 as I: and J:, they appear as non DOS. I think it is because one, they were formated as FAT32, and/or C: drive does not exist. I tried to do a CD to I: or J:, but no go. FDISK sees them as non DOS. The other issue is getting FDISK to format the 8GB as FAT32, not FAT16. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:11:18 -0800 > From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin > > Hello Joseph... > > Question 1. I don't know. <?> I can't remember what I do at this point. > > I have done this procedure several different ways depending one what > programs I had available to do it in. Maybe someone else can offer a > suggestion. > The last time I did this procedure I used some hard drive setup program > that didn't like the librettos formatting. My solution was this. > Created max size partition in the libretto. Moved the drive to other > computer with EZ-Drive or something similar. "Looked" at the drive to see > where it (EZ etc) says the end of the Libretto-Created partition. Wrote > that postion down and deleted that Libretto Created partition, then > completely re-created all three new partitions with the EZ-Drive type > software inside the desktop computer. > I remember creating a boot disk and using the "sys" command to transfer > the > system files from the floppy to the hard drive. > > Question 2. Sounds like the first partition isn't set to active. The > software(s) I usually use set the partition to active and tell me to > reboot > though... > > In case I left this out or you didn't know, a very important note is that > you don't run fdisk inside the Libretto again! You will lose the other > partitions beyond 8.X gig. Any program that tries to use the Libretto > BIOS > to alter the tables of the hard drive will wipe out the other areas. It > is > best to rename or remove fdisk from your libretto after installation. > > Keep asking and maybe I can help you get this thing going! I have not > done > this procedure in a while and I have done it different ways, so it is hard > to be really specific. I am trying though. > > John Martin > > ====================================== > > > > > ---------- > From: Joseph [SMTP:] > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:00 PM > To: Libretto > Subject: Re: [LIB] John Martin > > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:58:37 -0700 > From: "Joseph" < > > Subject: Re: [LIB] John Martin > > Hi John...thank you for responding! > 2 Issues: > > 1. Step1, Fdisk to (FAT32) > Here it only does FAT16. How can I format to FAT32? > > 2. Step3, I reformat the first 8GB using FAT32, creat 100mg and creat the > rest of the HD, apply, delet 100mg. > Problem is after formatting, it changes drive letters to (I) and (J). I > create a folder on (I) for Win98 files, place HD back in 110, boot off DOS > floppy, and can't see any partitions. > > Thanks. > Joseph > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Libretto" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:39 PM > Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin > > >> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:42:05 -0800 >> From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: [LIB] John Martin >> >> Hello Joseph... >> >> I apologize for not responding to your message. I was unable to respond >> within a day, and someone else copied and pasted my original post of >> Libretto Large Hard Drive installation and I thought that would be > enough. >> Sorry about that. >> >> I will answer your questions as best I can... >> >> Question 1: Yes, one method you could use is to copy the Win98 CD files >> to >> your hard drive (I put mine in C:\WINCD for instance) and install it from >> the hard drive once the formatted drive is inside the libretto. >> >> Question 2: I install Win98 on the C: drive all default. (e.g. >> C:\Windows) >> This reduces complications with programs that do not work correctly with >> alternate installation directories or drives. >> >> Question3: I don't completely understand this question, but believe yes. >> I decide what to install into my C: Drive based on the 8 gig limitation >> and keep all else on the D: drive. >> >> Question 4: Yes, you must have an area where the Libretto can write its >> hibernation data. There are alternate methods, but I chose to format the >> drive with three partitions of 8.X Gig, (defined by the Libretto BIOS), >> 150meg (just to be safe) and then the rest of the drive in the third >> partition. Before installation into the Libretto I delete the middle >> partition and I am left with C: (being 8.X gig defined by the Libretto >> BIOS) and D: being the remainder of the drive. >> >> Hope this helps. I am going to paste in my original post here for >> reference. >> >> ****begin paste**** >> Because I learned about how to work around this hibernation area from > this >> system and so many helpful Libretto users, I will share my preferred >> method >> of formatting drives around the hibernation area on Libretto 100 and >> 110CT's. I have done this for others many times now. >> >> The methods seems SO complicated compared to just formatting a hard > drive, >> but trust me, these guys know what they are talking about. It is >> necessary. After a LOT of experimentation I only have a lot of respect >> for >> most everyone who offered me (and many others) ideas on how to work > around >> this hard drive hibernation area on Libretto's. >> >> Here is the method I use. It requires a second computer with bios > ability >> to see beyond the Libretto's. Most any Pentium 2 Class and up is a sure >> thing.) I use an adapter to plug the 2.5" drives into the full size EIDE >> cable of the second computer. >> I have used this method many times now with my two Libretto's (100CT and >> 110CT) so I don't know about any other models. I have also done this > more >> than a dozen times now for others Libretto's. >> >> >> 1. First I use fdisk to set up the drive to its maximum size INSIDE the >> Libretto. It will be "about" 8Gig" >> This to me is the most logical step because any "issues" with the > Libretto >> bios become irrelevant because the bios in question IS making the >> partition. No figuring out where to leave a hibernation hole etc. >> >> 2. Then I remove the drive from the Libretto and install the adapter and >> place it into the second computer as a secondary drive. >> >> 3. I normally use Western Digital Lifeguard Tools usually, but other >> programs for setting up drives will probably work fine. I use this >> software to set up the remaining space on the drive into two partitions. >> The first partition I just set up as 100 meg or so. The second partition >> I set up as the rest of the drive. >> >> 4. Reboot and verify the partitions. (this just insures they were > writing >> to disk) Now I DELETE the 100 meg partition. This insures an Operating >> System doesn't try to format and use it. This 100 meg area insures there >> is plenty of space between usable partitions for the Librettos >> hibernation. >> >> Because the Libretto itself set up the original "8 gig" partition, the > END >> of this partition is sure to be in the "right place" relative to the >> Libretto Hibernation. I know the hibernation might only need to be >> smaller, but is "easier" to be safe and besides that, I think the > software >> I have used has a minimum size I can make the partition. Haven't set one >> up in a few months. >> >> An important note I did realize years ago after several drive >> corruption's! >> You can not turn off the Librettos hibernation function. It can be >> triggered by hardware independent of your OS for thermal overload and low >> battery conditions. SO no matter your OS, IF the Libretto tries to >> hibernate, it goes as far as the BIOS (specifically) can see (8.X gig) > and >> starts it write. Instant data corruption. If I had ONLY known this > years >> ago it would have saved me so much time formatting and replacing data. >> >> I have successfully done the above on more than a dozen Libretto 100CT's >> and 110CT's with basically every hard drive brand I have seen. It has >> been >> used on drives from 15gig to 100gig. >> >> I run Windows 98 on my Librettos but I have set this up for persons with >> other OS's. I do not install their OS's, I just set up the partitions > and >> make them DOS bootable. >> >> It isn't as difficult as it looks at first. I can do this in a few >> minutes >> now. >> If you need any specifics for any of the above, just email me and I will >> do >> my best to assist you further. Most likely everything I have typed is >> somewhere else in this system though. I learned it all here. >> >> Good Luck >> John Martin >> >> >> ****end paste**** >> >> ================================================= >> >> ---------- >> From: Joseph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:18 AM >> To: Libretto >> Subject: [LIB] John Martin >> >> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:19:53 -0700 >> From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: John Martin >> >> John, >> I sent you an e-mail regarding your kind offer, received no response. >> Are you still offering to reply to this message, if you have the time > that >> is?! >> Thanks. >> Joseph >> >> Question: >> 1. The Win98SE CD contents need to be copied to [D:], hard drive is then >> placed in the 110, then from the Dos prompt setup is run? >> 2. OS is installed to the 8GB partition [C:]? >> 3. Any other software is then installed to [D:] drive? >> 4. There should be a space buffer of 100 meg between the first 8GB and > the >> rest of the hard drive? >> 5. In the end there should be two drive letters, [C:] and [D:]? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Libretto" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:13 AM >> Subject: RE: [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE) >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:11:30 -0800 >>> From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: RE: [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE) >>> >>> Hello Joseph... >>> >>> I am heading out the door to go to work, but when I get back tonight I >>> will >>> reply to this message with a short description and some links >>> >>> You don't necessarily need a drive overlay. It depends on which method >>> you >>> use of setting up your hard drive. >>> >>> One partition is not generally possible with a drive over roughly 8GB in >> a >>> Libretto 110CT due to the hibernation routines needing that area to > write >>> hibernation area data into. >>> >>> More complete reply later... >>> >>> John Martin >>> >>> ==================================================== >>> >>> ---------- >>> From: Joseph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:11 PM >>> To: Libretto >>> Subject: [LIB] 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE) >>> >>> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:08:53 -0700 >>> From: "Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: 110 HD Confusion (Win98SE) >>> >>> Greetings: >>> I want to upgrade to a Western Digital Scorpio 120GB HD, running > Win98SE, >>> and have MS DOS 6.22 as well on a 110CT >>> >>> 1. Do I need a drive overlay? >>> >>> 2. What is the steps for installing both MS DOS 6.22 and Win98SE? >>> >>> I have tried FDISK, Installing MS DOS 6.22, then atemping to get the >>> CD-Rom >>> to be recognized to install Win, but could not see the CD-Rom. >>> >>> I want to keep things as simple as possible, one partion, no overlay if >>> possible, etc. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Joseph >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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