On 10/31/10 3:00 PM, "Keith E OHara" <k-ohara5...@oco.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 21:04:06 -0700, <lilypond-devel-requ...@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>> Mark Polesky wrote Friday, October 29, 2010 11:27 PM
>> 
>>> I've thought about it, and I think I slightly favor the term
>>> "loose line" over "non-staff line"
>>> 
> [...]
>>  Also loose-staff-spacing sounds
>> too much like something that gives staves a loose spacing
>> (rather than a tight spacing) to anyone coming to this for the
>> first time.
> 
> Thanks for doing this, Mark.
> 
> It seems you want a one-word _noun_, to refer to either a line of lyrics and a
> line of dynamics, in the limited context of its placement relative to the
> neighboring staffs, and similar lines of lyrics/dynamics.
> 
> Simply 'line' ?

I think 'line' could easily be confused with a staff line.  I think perhaps
'nonstaff' would be better.  So we could have

nonstaff-staff-spacing

> 
> Remember the user cannot see why they are called "loose"  -- maybe indirectly
> in the way these lines are placed in a second step after the staff lines, but
> the docs about that second step do not use the word 'loose'.

But they might, once the terminology is finalized.
> 
> The visible difference from regular staffs is that lyrics/dynamics have an
> affinity.  They are attached, in their spacing behavior, to one a parent
> staff, or centered between two parent staffs, and negotiate with their
> siblings for space.

This is a nice statement!  Thanks!

Carl


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