Mike Solomon wrote Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:22 AM > On Dec 11, 2013, at 11:36 AM, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: > >> As opposed to me, Graham excelled at organizing >> and maintaining community efforts like this which makes his leaving an >> even larger loss. > > His leaving is a huge loss, and as he has stated several times, one big > reason is the lack of sense of community. devel-list quarrels and the > thaws that come from them have real impacts on LilyPond - I can’t > emphasize enough that we need to stop marginalizing this issue and > tackle it head on. Modularity, while perhaps a good long term solution, > is a long ways away. How are we going to deal with this in 2014?
Actually, I think there is a great sense of community within the LilyPond project. Why else would people comment so favourably on the responses they receive on the various mailing lists; why else would people on the bug squad, Phil on releases, James on managing reviews, etc devote their time to mundane tasks? Why else would people, even those no longer active in LilyPond development, continue to read the lists? No, we are a great community and it is greatly enjoyable to belong to it! Also we are extremely fortunate to have so many brilliant developers willing to spend their time augmenting, fixing and improving our baby. That differences arise from time-to-time is inevitable - from the nature of this project our community includes people covering a wide range of temperament. Artists, artisans and engineers all figure prominently. They have different viewpoints and approaches, but this is an advantage not a problem - providing we can find a way to live and work together without stress levels getting too high. > How are we going to deal with this in 2014? I would recommend Mike and David both consider privately what they might have done differently to avoid this situation arising. Not what the other should have done, but what they themselves might have done. If they'd like to share those thoughts with the list that would be good, but that is not essential. But they must share them with each other and try to culture a mutual respect and understanding for the other's position. Trevor _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel