Aaron Hill wrote > On 2018-10-09 7:15 am, foxfanfare wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm trying to configure a template for my orchestral works but I have a >> problem with the GrandStaff vertical distance. You can take the >> template >> proposed in the manual to see the problem: >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/orchestra-choir-and-piano >> >> You can see in the string section, between Violin II and Viola, an >> extra >> space is added due to the use of the brace of the GrandStaff. (Same >> problem >> with the Alti group in the choir). >> >> I have made some ressearch in scores and also in Gould's book, this is >> verry >> unconventional. A space is added between the StaffGroups, but should >> not >> appear within the same family. >> >> How could you properly change that? I tried with: >> \override GrandStaff.StaffGrouper.staffgroup-staff-spacing = #'( >> (basic-distance . 9) >> (minimum-distance . 7) >> (padding . 1) >> (stretchability . 5)) >> >> But this will move above AND bellow the GrandStaff. Here is in my score >> the >> illustration of the problem: >> distance.png >> <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/t5604/distance.png> > > I can see the same behavior given the default settings; but if you are > explicit about your spacing parameters, then it seems the spacing can be > forced to be even. Consider the following contrived example: > > %%%% > \version "2.19.82" > > notes = { <c' b' a''>1 } > \score { > << > \new Staff \notes > \new Staff \notes > \new StaffGroup << > \new Staff \notes > \new Staff \notes > \new GrandStaff << > \new Staff \notes > \new Staff \notes > >> > \new Staff \notes > \new Staff \notes > >> > \new Staff \notes > \new Staff \notes > >> > \layout { > \context { \Score > \override StaffGrouper.staffgroup-staff-spacing.basic-distance = > #9 > } > } > } > %%%% > > The default basic-distance for staff groups seems to be roughly 11, but > staves normally prefer a basic-distance around 9. That override above > seems to be enough to make my contrived example show (nearly) consistent > spacing. > > Another thing that worked was setting the staff-staff-spacing at the > \Staff level: > > %%%% > \layout { > \context { \Staff > \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-staff-spacing.basic-distance = > #9 > } > } > %%%% > > However, this doesn't really make sense to me. Maybe someone with a > better understanding of the internals could determine whether this is > expected behavior. But it seems that the staff-staff-spacing override > trumps staffgroup-staff-spacing, which means one loses a degree of > freedom if you do want to adjust those independently. Then again, all > the staves are in the same system, so perhaps staff-staff-spacing really > should apply regardless of whether or not the staves belong to staff > groups. > > > -- Aaron Hill > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list
> lilypond-user@ > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi Aaron, thanks for your reply. I tried your solution but again, it moves either all the staves, or above and below a grand staff. This isn't the ideal behaviour. In the meantime, I found another solution for this, but this doesn't appear to be the easiest way to do it! I used systemStartDelimiterHierarchy instead which doesn't add any space within a family group. Again, with the LilyPond exemple, this will give: %--- fluteMusic = \relative c' { \key g \major g'1 b } % Pitches as written on a manuscript for Clarinet in A % are transposed to concert pitch. clarinetMusic = \transpose c' a \relative c'' { \key bes \major bes1 d } trumpetMusic = \relative c { \key g \major g''1 b } % Key signature is often omitted for horns hornMusic = \transpose c' f \relative c { d'1 fis } percussionMusic = \relative c { \key g \major g1 b } pianoRHMusic = \relative c { \key g \major g''1 b } pianoLHMusic = \relative c { \clef bass \key g \major g1 b } violinIMusic = \relative c' { \key g \major g'1 b } violinIIMusic = \relative c' { \key g \major g'1 b } violaMusic = \relative c { \clef alto \key g \major g'1 b } celloMusic = \relative c { \clef bass \key g \major g1 b } bassMusic = \relative c { \clef "bass_8" \key g \major g,1 b } \score { << \new StaffGroup = "StaffGroup_woodwinds" << \new Staff = "Staff_flute" \with { instrumentName = #"Flute" } \fluteMusic \new Staff = "Staff_clarinet" \with { instrumentName = \markup { \concat { "Clarinet in B" \flat } } } % Declare that written Middle C in the music % to follow sounds a concert B flat, for % output using sounded pitches such as MIDI. %\transposition bes % Print music for a B-flat clarinet \transpose bes c' \clarinetMusic >> \new StaffGroup = "StaffGroup_brass" << \new Staff = "Staff_hornI" \with { instrumentName = #"Horn in F" } % \transposition f \transpose f c' \hornMusic \new Staff = "Staff_trumpet" \with { instrumentName = #"Trumpet in C" } \trumpetMusic >> \new RhythmicStaff = "RhythmicStaff_percussion" \with { instrumentName = #"Percussion" } << \percussionMusic >> \new PianoStaff \with { instrumentName = #"Piano" } << \new Staff { \pianoRHMusic } \new Staff { \pianoLHMusic } >> \new StaffGroup << \set StaffGroup.systemStartDelimiterHierarchy = #'(SystemStartBracket (SystemStartBrace (SystemStartBracket a) b) c) \new Staff = "Staff_violinI" \with { instrumentName = #"Violin I" } \violinIMusic \new Staff = "Staff_violinII" \with { instrumentName = #"Violin II" } \violinIIMusic \new Staff = "Staff_viola" \with { instrumentName = #"Viola" } \violaMusic \new Staff = "Staff_cello" \with { instrumentName = #"Cello" } \celloMusic \new Staff = "Staff_bass" \with { instrumentName = #"Double Bass" } \bassMusic >> >> \layout { } } %--- I would be interested if someone find another way to do this... But at least, this seems to work! -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user