All looks good! Thanks Daniel. On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 06:06, Daniel Benjamin Miller <dbmil...@dbmiller.org> wrote:
> I've updated the fonts and support to correct the issue. Download the new > version (at the same GitHub link) and you'll see the issue resolved. Thanks > for the report! > On 6/27/20 3:39 PM, Craig Dabelstein wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > Thanks for all your work on this. I've followed all your instructions and > it is all working perfectly, however, now my hairpins that start or end on > a dynamic are not centered on the opening or closing dynamic. Any idea why > this would happen? > > All the best, > > Craig > > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 19:23, Daniel Benjamin Miller < > dbmil...@dbmiller.org> wrote: > >> I agree. Having choice in this respect is wonderful and important. >> Abraham's work in this regard was great, though, as I am a staunch user of >> what is free and open-source (in large part because I want *anyone* to >> be able to modify and re-compile my scores), I am a bit saddened that he >> moved to proprietary fonts. You will notice that I use his (still OFL, >> though old) Profondo brace font (a conversion of Bravura; I replaced his >> Profondo music font because it was out of date, being based on an early >> pre-release of Bravura). >> >> Adding SMuFL support will enhance our ability to add new fonts by a lot. >> Right now a big issue is that it is extremely difficult to create the >> proper special tables (LILY and so on) in fonts so that LilyPond can >> actually use them. And most fonts are not METAFONT-designed like >> Emmentaler, so the accessible infrastructure for font building for LilyPond >> is abysmal. So to me the advantage of SMuFL is not only that we'll be able >> to use fonts from elsewhere, but the creation of fonts becomes orders of >> magnitude less difficult too (as the tools for developing SMuFL fonts are >> in place). >> >> Of course, between Abraham Lee's conversion of the pre-release Bravura, >> and the existing Bravura support that had been put together before, this is >> not the first time that Bravura was made to be used in LilyPond. But I >> think it's finally ready for actual publication-quality usage now! So while >> Owen does his work on SMuFL support, we have another good choice for the >> present! >> On 6/25/20 5:16 AM, Urs Liska wrote: >> >> Am Donnerstag, den 25.06.2020, 04:37 -0400 schrieb Daniel Benjamin >> Miller: >> >> You're right, it does essentially replicate Dorico's style. >> >> I don't think LilyPond should change what its default style is; >> >> I think what you suggested with this wasn't to change the defaults. But >> I really like the idea of having choice. It is good that out-of-the-box >> scores are immediately recognizble (although I have the impression that >> the *text* font is even more notable in this respect). >> >> But people shouldn't be limited to that "personality" but have the >> option to tweak the output to what they like. Generally speaking scores >> shouldn't necessarily have the personality of the program but that of >> the author/editor/publisher. Abraham Lee's efforts in making >> alternative fonts properly available at all, and his collection of >> fonts, was a huge step forware IMHO, and I really hope that Owen Lamb's >> work of making LilyPond SMuFL-compliant will make that possibility of >> choice even more fundmental. >> >> Urs >> >> >> I don't >> like the Emmentaler font myself (Simon Tatham put it best, though I >> actually feel the same about Gonville: >> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/gonville/ - "I designed >> it >> because Lilypond's standard font (Feta) was not to my taste: I found >> it >> to be (variously) over-ornate, strangely proportioned, and subtly >> not >> like the music I was used to reading. Music set in Feta looks to me >> like >> strangely stylised music; music set in Gonville just looks to me >> like >> music, so I can read it without being distracted so much.) >> >> But I also think that we should not try to change the defaults. But >> I >> also think that almost nobody actually cares much about music >> typography, really: only LilyPond and Dorico have really put effort >> into >> creating their default fonts and appearances; MuseScore borrows its >> fonts from both, and Finale and Sibelius' fonts are really clearly >> not >> that seriously taken. >> >> LilyPond is not static, but it should not really change in terms of >> its >> defaults either. Much like TeX, we should not change the default >> fonts, >> in my opinion (though of course Emmentaler and Feta are being >> expanded >> as new features are added to LilyPond, and slight tweaks and >> improvements are all well and good). >> >> On 6/25/20 3:06 AM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: >> >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020, Daniel Benjamin Miller wrote: >> >> >> I'd like to share something: https://github.com/dbenjaminmiller/bmusicfonts >> I personally prefer the Bravura design to Emmentaler/Feta, and >> there'd been >> >> Thanks for this, I am going to try it for sure. I like Dorico's >> output, and this will sort of give a similar result for LilyPond if >> I >> understand correctly? >> >> Which leads to a more philosophic question. Do we want LilyPond >> scores >> to have an immediately recognizable "personality" or are we slowly >> moving to a situation where everyone, including LilyPond, is trying >> to >> look the same (when using default settings), and it will be hard >> to >> see if a score was typeset in LilyPond, MuseScore, Dorico, Finale, >> or >> Sibelius? >> >> I hope LilyPond will always try to keep a distinct personality in >> the >> default output, which is not a static thing but can be discussed >> in >> the Lilypond user and developers community, changed, and improved >> continuously. But let not all our efforts go to looking as much as >> possible like "the other ones". >> >> I know LilyPond is (almost) flexible and tweakable enough to have >> it >> all, but what I am talking about is the default output. >> >> >> > > -- > Craig Dabelstein > Owner > Maxime's Music > M: 0404884173 > A: 19 Twelfth Ave, Kedron QLD 4031, Australia > W: concertbandmusicstore.com <https://concertbandmusicstore.com/>E: > cr...@concertbandmusicstore.com <cr...@concertbandmusicstore.com> > <https://www.facebook.com/maximesmusic.com.au> > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximes-music> > > <https://www.designhill.com/email-signature-generator> > > > -- Craig Dabelstein Owner Maxime's Music M: 0404884173 A: 19 Twelfth Ave, Kedron QLD 4031, Australia W: concertbandmusicstore.com <https://concertbandmusicstore.com/>E: cr...@concertbandmusicstore.com <cr...@concertbandmusicstore.com> <https://www.facebook.com/maximesmusic.com.au> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximes-music> <https://www.designhill.com/email-signature-generator>
