Le jeudi 23 février 2023 à 22:14 +0000, Wols Lists a écrit :
> On 22/02/2023 12:39, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> 
> > My offer is open. For the main Discourse server I run, amusingly the 
> > majority of people use the email interface, no matter how much I 
> > encourage them to use the nice web interface. [It's a forum devoted to 
> > harpsichord.] The point is that it runs the web interface and email list 
> > including digests in parallel, and you can initiate topics by email as 
> > well.
> 
> 
> Your "nice web interface" is my "pain in the arse". I much prefer to  
> work in an off-line manner, using text. I can't work off-line with a web  
> server.

You can work off-line with the emails that Discourse sends you.

In fact, you can interact with Discourse pretty much like you do with a mailing 
list and never visit the website.


> Most web sites (can't speak for Discourse, I've never touched it) are  
> stuffed full of adverts that often obscure the text I'm interested in.


Discourse is free software and does not include adverts.


> Many of the websites I interact with on a regular basis (shopping, of  
> course) have completely broken print interfaces, so bad that one page of  
> interesting web text will give 20 pages of print with all of the  
> interesting text missing ...

I just tried Ctrl-P on 
https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-702-marking-deprecations-using-the-type-system/23036
 (in Firefox). It gave me a perfectly legible and relatively nicely formatted 
PDF.


> Pretty much EVERY web site I CHOOSE to interact with has its design  
> ethos stuck in the last century. Discourse might be similar, but I have  
> absolutely no desire to find out. And the last I heard of discourse (it  
> sounds like your setup is better) email appeared to be a second class  
> citizen.

For me, interacting with Discourse forums by email works just fine.

The only quirk I remember with discuss.python.org is that at some point, it was
quoting the whole discussion in every reply, which was annoying. I turned off
some option in the preferences and it went away.

The other main difference from a mailing list is the linear flow
(not threaded). I don't consider this an issue personally, but your
mileage may vary.


> And of course, the other massive difference between web and email is  
> that I have to actively visit the website - I've got better things to do  
> with my time. Email just ends up in my (in this case) lilypond-box for  
> me to scan as and when I have nothing better to do :-)

Again, in my experience, interacting with Discourse by email only works jus 
fine.

> This is only my opinion - other people are free to disagree. There's no  
> right or wrong, only a whole bunch of lost people who for one reason or  
> another are unwilling/unable to make the transition. I've had a list  
> move underneath me - I didn't move with it ...


You're free to have your opinion of course, and I'm not saying that Discourse
is perfect — it has its issues, like mailing lists have their issues — but most 
of your
fears seem unfounded to me.

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