Hi Matt,

On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 10:53 AM Matthew Pierce <pierce...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> For hairpin positioning within a whole note, the Manual gives the syntax
>
> \relative {
>     \after 2 \< c'1
> }
>
> Is there an effective \after syntax for hairpin positioning within
> NON-whole notes, such as  the second note in this (intuitive but)
> nonviable expression?
>
>   \relative {
>     \after 2 \< c'4 2.
>   }
>
> CONTEXT: I need to place an \espressivo-shaped, double-hairpin swell
> underneath a dotted half note. Also, I need it to be stretchable, so that I
> can horizontally align it with the other, more active parts/staffs in my
> orchestral score.
>

To emulate an \espressivo using actual dynamics by way of the \after
function:

\version "2.25.13"

musA = \relative c' {
  a'4 \after 8*3 \>  a2.\< a2\! a2
}

musB = \relative c' {
  a'4 \after 4. \> \after 2. \! a2.\< a2 a2
}

musC = \relative c' {
  a'4 \after 4. \> a2.\< <>\! a2 a2
}

\score {
  \new Staff {
    \new Voice {
      \musA
} } }

\score {
  \new Staff {
    \new Voice {
      \musB
} } }

\score {
  \new Staff {
    \new Voice {
      \musC
} } }

will produce:

[image: image.png]

Three different ways of accomplishing the same thing. The first showing
that you can indeed use scaling in the \after function (i.e. the 8*3
meaning 3 8th notes worth) and terminating the decrescendo on the following
note. The second using \after to do the termination.  The third uses the
empty chord construct (i.e. the <> ) to attach the termination to. You are,
of course, free to mix and match whichever method suits you.
-- 
Michael

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