Wol, 

The bit about trombones in bass and Bb treble; I've only ever heard of Bb 
treble clef trombone in British brass band music. What is the "American bass 
part" in Bb? I've never heard of such a thing. I know that Richard Strauß wrote 
tenor tuba parts in Bb bass clef. 

-David 

> From: "Wols Lists" <antli...@youngman.org.uk>
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> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 3:28:16 PM
> Subject: Re: How to transpose?

> On 23/05/2024 12:26, Kenneth Flak wrote:
> > Great, thanks to both of you! Very clarifying. \transposition is, thus,
> > going in the direction of instrument -> playback, whereas \transpose
> > goes in the opposite direction, if I understand it correctly.

> I do a lot of brass stuff. And as you've realised, it's \transpose not
> \transposition.

> I just think "\transpose for printed music, \transposition for midi".
> How accurate that is I don't know.

> The other trick I always use (given that a trombone plays both bass clef
> in C, and treble clef in Bb, and worse when you get an American bass
> part in Bb ?!?!?!), is I transpose on input as well as output.

> When copying a part IN to lilypond, I'll wrap it in "\transpose c c" or
> "\transpose bf c'" depending on whether it's a bass or treble part. So I
> know all my music fragments in lilypond are in C.

> Then I'll wrap them the other way on output to put them in the correct
> printed pitch. That way I never have to transpose in my head to make
> sure things are correct.

> Cheers,
> Wol

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