Am 13.01.2009 um 22:06 schrieb Julio Casares:
Dear all
Thanks for your support. It is really nice to see there are people
taking care of the users.
I have some comments from myside:
1) I managed to make it worked but following the first of the ways
recommended in your help
Good deal.
2) A friend of mine - with same configuration - was using the
method with the apple script. She is no longer using it but
directly the application. And it does work. She does not know how.
That's unfortunate that she doesn't know how it works. But, now that
I've tried other methods, I think that the default text entry program
that comes with lilypond is rather lacking and there are much better
ways of using the program.
3) If there is not a easy way I think is better to stop here our
discussions. I do not feel comfortable if you waste your time with
me. I will live with the apple script method.
You may want to also look into downloading jEdit and lilypondtool.
They seem to be a very useful way of using lilypond.
4) Have you thought to develop a GUI for the application (similar
to TexTshop)?
Incidentally, there is a lilypond plugin for TeXShop, but it's not
maintained, and there have to be adjustments made to get it working
properly.
Being a normal mac user for the last 5 years, I am not used to deal
with so many technical details. For me it is difficult to install
and the application is not definately elegant. But the outputs in
PDF and the simplicity are very good.
I've tried Finale and Sibelius. There are very expensive and not
easy to use. That's why I came to lilypond. I think, if the
shottcomings are well addressed, there is a huge market/group of
users waiting for it
Only five years? I've actually never owned a computer that wasn't
made by apple, and lilypond was the first GNU project that I can say
I'd directly and intentionally used. I agree that the learning curve
is very steep. Especially if one is just a regular computer user, who
writes music, and is dissatisfied with sibelius/finale. However, once
I understood the logic behind how lilypond works (lilypond just
processes text files, you can write the text file with any program
that can save a text file, and just use lilypond to turn it into a
musical score), I realised how unnecessary a GUI editor for lilypond is.
To be honest, I actually find GNU nano to be the easiest way to enter
my musical scores. It comes installed with osx, meets lilypond's very
minimal requirements for a text editor, it saves files as UTF-8
encoding, and because it runs in a terminal, I already have the
terminal open for when I need to use lilypond to process a file. Nano
is very easy, very straightforward, has wonderful multiple-language
support, and does wonderful lilypond-helpful things like automatic
text indenting, matching bracket searching, easy search and replace,
and even has syntax hilighting. (So things like \score and %comments
can show up colored).
I agree with you as well that sibelius and finale are expensive and
not easy to use (I could never figure out how to enter music in
sibelius), but as long as the user doesn't have to read anything,
they will always be preferred by the average user over a program like
lilypond or LaTeX, where, in order to use the program, you have to
read the manual, and learn how the program works. I try to always
remember, just because something is good, doesn't make it successful.
On 13.01.2009, at 21:07, "James E. Bailey"
<derhindem...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Am 13.01.2009 um 20:43 schrieb Ivo Bouwmans:
Hallo all,
James E. Bailey schreef / wrote / skribis:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you'll need to
build lilypond from source.
There's no need to do that to use LP on Mac OS X Leopard.
Ah, but he wants to, apparently.
Am 13.01.2009 um 16:22 schrieb Julio Casares:
Thanks
A friend of mine with same configuration is able to use the menu.
I would rather have it even if it is complicated. Could you tell
how to proceed?
Julio
E-mail: julio.casa...@me.com
Also, asking the friend how he got it working is probably also a
good start.
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