My reasoned opinion, which Hayden reiterated, on Gould's pronouncement about the matter. Anyway, certainly some ammunition to dissuade the editor.
Shane On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Hayden Muhl <haydenm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am a singer, and would like to weigh in. > > In my opinion, it is preferable to put the punctuation with the syllable. > The punctuation may have an impact on how the singer wants to interpret a > phrase. If you put the punctuation after the extension line, the singer will > not see the punctuation until he's already done with the line. To my mind, > this would be equivalent to putting the final consonant at the end of the > passage, and I hope no one would think that would be a good idea. > > One thing I have seen in some scores is reprinting the syllable in > parentheses after a page or line break. Take this line from the Queen of the > Night's famous aria. If the melisma extends across too many staves or pages, > you might see this. > > Al - le Ban ________________________________ > > (Ban)____________________ - de der Na - tur. > > Another possibility might look like this. > > Al - le Ban ________________________________ > > ______________________(Ban) - de der Na - tur > > I've only seen something like the first example in print. I only included > the second example, because it is similar to what the publisher is asking > for. As a singer, I would probably prefer the first example. > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:10 PM, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: >> >> Shane Brandes <sh...@grayskies.net> writes: >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: >> >>> Marc Hohl <m...@hohlart.de> writes: >> >>> >> >>>> Am 23.01.2012 20:36, schrieb Nils: >> >>>>> [...] >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Any known solutions? And if not: I find it strange to make it like >> >>>>> this. Do you know reasons that speaks against __ _ _! which I can >> >>>>> tell my publisher? >> >>>> Well, at least in "Behind bars" from Elaine Gould it is explained >> >>>> that the >> >>>> punctuations come *before* the extender line. This book is said to be >> >>>> the ultimate guide to writing scores - does that count? >> >>> >> >>> I'd be interested in the rationale. So what is the explanation? >> > >> > It would seem more useful. To have such punctuation against the word >> > for the reason that for example with an exclamation point it alters >> > the expression of the word. if you have to arrive at the end of the >> > extender lines to find out about such a change it impedes a quick and >> > accurate reading of the score. >> >> Your opinion or that of Gould? A valid reason would be in my opinion >> that a period or comma would likely get lost behind an extender. But >> for singing, where hyphenation also is often altered to put the >> consonant at the beginning of the next syllable, it does seem strange to >> put a full stop first, then have a complete phrase following still. >> >> -- >> David Kastrup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user