tisimst <tisimst.lilypond <at> gmail.com> writes: > > Simon Albrecht-2 wrote > > Am 29.07.2014 01:28, schrieb Marten: > >> Hello Abraham, Simon, > >> > >> Thanks for your solutions and quick replies :) > >> > >> I decided to try to implement Simon's third solution, as it explicitly > >> keeps the melody of the stanzas together with their texts. > >> > >> Ingenious - hadn't thought about a solution like that. > >> > >> I have two question about it though: > >> 1. If I use \addlyrics instead of \new Lyrics for the stanzas, an ambitus > >> will be rendered for the stanza and the refrain *separately* (a layout > >> block activating the ambitus, must of course be added). If I use \new > >> Lyrics, as in your solution, only one ambitus for the entire song is > >> rendered (expected behaviour). Why is this so? > > I find the question a bit confusing. Looking at Abrahams example (in the > > answer he wrote) makes me wonder why you use separate voices for refrain > > and verse. I can’t see any necessity to do so and it contradicts the > > logic of the music: after all, refrain and stanza are not sung by > > different singers. If you use two different voices, it’s only natural > > that each gets an ambitus of its own. What would you expect? > >> > >> 2. If the stanza melody begins with a rest, the text gets aligned under > >> the > >> rest. Why? > > Please try once more to understand the difference in the mechanisms of > > my first and second examples: in the one with \addlyric, an association > > between lyrics and the voice is created and each syllable is associated > > with one note (thus, rests are skipped). > > The other way does not use direct relation between lyrics and notes: > > both are entered separately, with their own durations, and it’s up to > > you to get the alignment in time correct. Lilypond will print everything > > at the point of time where you put it, and if a rest and a lyric > > syllable come at the same point of time, they will be aligned. > > I hope you tried at least to understand the topic yourself from the > > lenghty and fully sufficient description in the manuals, to which I > > pointed you. Sometimes it takes a little time to comprehend, but it will > > save the time of the friendly persons on this list who help you with > > real problems. > > > > Best regards, Simon > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > > lilypond-user <at> > > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > Simon, > > I knew I had seen this somewhere and didn't just make it up (as shown in the > official docs): > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/learning/solo-verse-and- two_002dpart-refrain > <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/learning/solo-verse-and- two_002dpart-refrain> > > I think your answer may still be better, by the way, in response to the > original question :) > > Good work, > Abraham > > -- > View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Multiple-stanzas-to-selection-of- melody-tp165018p165158.html > Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user <at> gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >
Hello Simon, thanks for your explanation. Yes I do understand the difference between \addlyrics and \new Lyrics. The point is that when I replace one of the \new Lyrics with \addlyrics, that an extra ambitus appears. As I understand it, the ambitus engraver is triggered to restart counting by specifying \addlyrics when more than one Voice is present. Since I could not get this to work for me with a single ambitus appearing, I decided to change to the method of your first example. A bit ugly in my opinion to add two lines with underscores to each stanza in order to skip the refrain, but the result then is correct :) To me this solution is still more pleasantly editing than specifying a duration in the text, but that's a matter of taste, I guess. The solution Abraham pointed to also uses two voices, and for that reason also two ambituses will appear. (I tested this.) [On a sidenote: the problem of adding a text to only a part of a melody could be very smoothly solved if Lilypond provided the option to add a name to a certain part of the melody. The text might then be added as \lyricsto <partname>.] Anyway: problem solved. Thanks! _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user