Bikers and walkers have so much more in common than we do differences.  It
really pains me to hear all of this divisiveness and negativity.  Both
groups want to protect nature, want to give our kids and ourselves a chance
to safely recreate away from traffic and pollution, and want to find more
sustainable ways to get around that don't involve fossil fuels.  Let's try
to find a way to work together and find common ground.

See:

https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/what-if-we-kept-our-cars-parked-trips-less-one-mile

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/25/1099566472/more-cyclists-are-being-killed-by-cars-advocates-say-u-s-streets-are-the-problem?t=1657038855943

John Mendelson, here since 2012



On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 12:25 PM Nancy Bergen via Lincoln <
lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:

> I knew Quincy and yes he would be rolling over in his grave if he thought
> there were dirt bikes being ridden on those trails, just ask Kim at Red
> Rail.
>
>
>
> Nancy
>
>
>
> *From:* Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> *On Behalf Of *Leslie
> Turek
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 5, 2022 12:15 PM
> *To:* John Kimball <selen...@earthlink.net>
> *Cc:* conservat...@lincolntown.org; <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> <
> lincoln@lincolntalk.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] biking on conservation land
>
>
>
> >>For example, I see no need to allow them in the idyllic Adams Woods.
> Quincy would roll over in his grave.
>
>
>
> I'm not taking a stand for or against bikes on the trails, but I have to
> say this statement made me giggle a bit. According to Tom Gumbart, who used
> to lead our conservation walks through Adams Woods, some of the trails
> there are depressed below grade because Adams and his friends used to
> gallop horses down the narrow trails. The 19th-century equivalent to dirt
> bikes? So not sure he would be rolling over in his grave.
>
>
>
> Leslie Turek
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 11:43 AM John Kimball <selen...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> John Kimball, here since 1972. I have voted for every conservation
> purchase since, and have very little sympathy for bikes on conservation
> land. Bikes do not use the roadside paths but feel entitled to use the
> roads, and I have no confidence that they would confine themselves to
> approved conservation trails. For example, I see no need to allow them in
> the idyllic Adams Woods. Quincy would roll over in his grave.
> Speed seems to be the norm for bikes and the thrill of going downhill over
> rocks and roots. Look out below for all mere pedestrians. Bikes should not
> be allowed on any narrow paths where they may run into walkers and
> especially children. Bikes and dogs are even more incompatible. I strongly
> oppose the vast proposed expansion of bike trails.
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