Thanks for the clarification. Very clear…no need for nuance. Could you provide contact info for the standing committee who would review applications for town org. use?
Many thanks, Sara ------ Sara Mattes > On Nov 17, 2022, at 8:23 AM, David Sykes <sykes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The town of Lincoln continues to own the DeCordova, but no longer manages it. > Management of the DeCordova has been contractually assigned to the Trustees > of Reservations. > In other words, some community events may continue to be held there (such as > the annual Top of the Town party), but the Town doesn’t have the right to > demand anything that would impose on TTOR’s ability to manage the property. > > So any desire by the Town or Town-based organizations to use the DeCordova > property for meetings and events would likely be subject to negotiation > between TTOR and the Town—and there’s already a standing committee for > that.... > > David Sykes > >> On Nov 16, 2022, at 8:33 PM, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com >> <mailto:samat...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I think that needs some nuance. >> The Town of Lincoln ons the land. >> The disposition of the buildings is another matter. >> ------ >> Sara Mattes >> >> >> >> >>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 6:08 PM, Jennifer Saffran <jennifer.saff...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:jennifer.saff...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> FYI: The Town of Lincoln no longer owns the DeCordova. The Trustees of the >>> Reservation are the owners now. >>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:57 PM, ROY HARVEY <royhar...@comcast.net >>>> <mailto:royhar...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Appendix D (Program Schedule Matrix) and Appendix O (A day in the life of >>>> the Lincoln CC, excerpted below) of the 2018 report by the architects show >>>> the many anticipated uses of the CC spaces throughout the day. >>>> Utilization of these spaces reaches high levels. >>>> >>>> Many activities would greatly benefit from new, purpose-built spaces. >>>> However, some of the activities appear to be doable in existing buildings >>>> (especially if they don't need COAHS/PRD staff to lead or supervise). >>>> These include foreign language conversation, chess club, bridge, and >>>> others. (I have not attended any of these so am not aware of particular >>>> needs.) >>>> >>>> Sorry if this has already been asked or answered, but can some of the >>>> program activities use other, existing spaces, e.g., the school, Hartwell >>>> main building and pods, Bemis, Pierce House, Library, DeCordova, etc, and >>>> reduce the square footage needed in the CC? >>>> >>>> Also, was cost an input to (that is, a constraint on) the architect's >>>> process, or are estimated costs outputs of the process? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Roy Harvey >>>> >>>> <image.png> >>>>> On 11/16/2022 4:50 PM Allen Vander Meulen <pastorall...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:pastorall...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have no doubt the CCBC and Selectboard are well aware there is >>>>> considerable concern over the costs of the Community Center project - >>>>> more than enough to kill the project if costs are too high. And I know >>>>> they do not want to waste time designing a facility that will never be >>>>> built. I think we can and should trust them to be good stewards of the >>>>> town’s available funds. >>>>> >>>>> Also, given that this is the early stages of the project, it is far >>>>> better - from a project management point of view - to not >>>>> overly-constrain the process. We need to see what the costs of building >>>>> the Community Center we want / need really are, and how various options >>>>> will affect that cost. A similar approach was done for the school >>>>> project, resulting in three options (at various price points) being >>>>> presented to the town for a vote. >>>>> >>>>> I am certain the CCBC will pursue a similar strategy. So there is no need >>>>> to set a “cap” at this time; and in my opinion doing so will compromise >>>>> the end result in ways that no one will be happy with. >>>>> >>>>> - Allen Vander Meulen >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 16:11, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:samat...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Rob, et al. >>>>>> We could vote for the money, with a caveat-that the next step include a >>>>>> cap on total costs. >>>>>> Bob Mason has suggested a $15 million cap as that was the top end of the >>>>>> projected costs when we last visited numbers, and was a number that >>>>>> many, at the time were comfortable with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Without such caveat, there is no guarantee that the design iterations >>>>>> will come anywhere close to that figure. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suspect, like most, am bound by a budget/limit on what I can expend on >>>>>> construction, remodeling and/or renovations in my own home. >>>>>> Perhaps we can do that, as a town too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your offer to lead fundraising is laudable, but we would need to raise >>>>>> $10 million in order to bring the price tag back to what had been seen >>>>>> has the upper limit. >>>>>> Would we old off voting on a bond until that goal was reached. >>>>>> I am not sure how this could work. >>>>>> >>>>>> If we do not, we continue to challenge the budgets of many and create a >>>>>> climate that limits opportunities for economic diversity in our >>>>>> community. >>>>>> If we are committed to diversity, as we espouse to be, we must walk our >>>>>> talk, have our actions match our words, and budget accordingly. >>>>>> >>>>>> I look forward to hearing more from others tonight. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Sara >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> Sara Mattes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Rob <urbanviney...@comcast.net >>>>>>> <mailto:urbanviney...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From what I heard Jonathan Dwyer say last night, at this point there >>>>>>> are NO budgets, and there are no final plans for the Community Center. >>>>>>> The $325K is intended to hire an outside architect to work with the >>>>>>> CCBC to review the options that were worked out from 2018, and to ALSO >>>>>>> add/subtract features and consider learnings we’ve had over the last 3 >>>>>>> years, and to consider new information (cost, etc…) to come up with a >>>>>>> plan to present to the town again at the next town meeting. Ideally it >>>>>>> would be something we could vote on to continue the process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A “no” vote for this money prevents Lincoln from having the benefit of >>>>>>> an (outside) expert to come up with a new plan that fits with >>>>>>> post-COVID learnings and today’s financial reality and stops the >>>>>>> process in its tracks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I for one will vote to support the town’s request to spend this money >>>>>>> on assessing the 2018 plans to see if they are a fit for 2023 and >>>>>>> beyond. I will vote again if and when asked for more funds for further >>>>>>> studies and/or moving forward with a Community Center once we have more >>>>>>> information gathered by these outside experts and town staff and >>>>>>> volunteers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am also eager to volunteer to help raise private funds to defray any >>>>>>> tax burden the community center might incur. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob Stringer >>>>>>> 15 Todd Pond >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org >>>>>>> <mailto:Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>. >>>>>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org >>>>>> <mailto:Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>. >>>>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org >>>>> <mailto:Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>. >>>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org >>>> <mailto:Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>. >>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org >>> <mailto:Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org >> <mailto:Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>. >> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >
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