There is nothing like food to bring the community together. And cooking is indeed a life skill that used to be taught in home ec before the invention of Grubhub. That said, professional kitchens are expensive, there are town standards so you dont start a frie or get food poisoning and you can get cooking classes at Minuteman. The benefit of Minuteman, is that it brings some activity to North Lincoln.
Regards, *Stephanie Smoot* 857 368-9175 work 781 941-6842 personal cell *617 595-5217 *work cell 126 Chestnut Circle Lincoln, MA 01773 On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:35 PM DJCP <djcp0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why the harping on the kitchen? Do you think cutting the kitchen is going > to save $10 million? The cost is going to be relatively nominal. > > Plus, it seems like people who are opposed to the kitchen have the > privilege of not having had to watch their aging parents lose the ability > to safely cook at home. Cooking was a big part of my family growing up, as > it is for many, and I think my mom would have enjoyed watching cooking > classes. (The Codman kitchen, while lovely, is in the barn and does not > have a lot of room for sitting, nor is the barn temperature regulated.) > It's almost like there were people on a committee and people were surveyed > to find out what could best serve the COA community, and these were the > ideas that were raised! > > Diana > A former member of the dreaded "sandwich generation" and may you never > need to know what that means if you don't already > Giles Rd > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 11:34 AM Karla Gravis <karlagra...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The problem is the starting point of $25M, which includes so many “wants” >> like a teaching kitchen and a cafe. >> >> Inflation shouldn’t be the reason we push forward a $25M project without >> understanding our true needs. >> >> Wayland, which has so many more residents than us, is building a >> community center for $11M and at 13Ksqft (half the size we’re proposing). >> >> We need to level-set our needs, and spending $325K on refining proposals >> will *not* get us there. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 11:11 AM Lis Herbert <lisherb...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sara: >>> >>> Do not try to contort the meaning of my words and frame me as >>> insensitive. Don’t. >>> >>> I didn’t say that I think $25 million is something to sneeze at. I said >>> it will seem like peanuts if we delay, ie when the town is presented with a >>> 40M price tag down the road. >>> >>> The history of these projects has shown that 11M can balloon to 25. The >>> first school vote was for roughly half what the new school ultimately cost. >>> That’s mostly the result of waiting, and little else. >>> >>> Lis >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 9:19 AM, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Calling $25 million “peanuts” is a bit much. >>> >>> While it may be “ peanuts” to you, a significant portion of our >>> population would find it otherwise. >>> And, to date, no one is talking about the Town operating budgets and >>> what they will look like, going forward- after we address teachers >>> contract, the hiring a new Superintendent, changes in Town Office staffing >>> and the impacts of inflation across the board. >>> >>> I suspect we will see the need for an override to support the staffing >>> needs. >>> >>> That is part of the total tax package that has an impact on individual >>> households. >>> >>> So, what may be “ peanuts” to you, may have serious and crushing impacts >>> on others. >>> >>> We need to be mindful and sensitive to that reality. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Lis Herbert <lisherb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Sara: >>> If this process is delayed or stopped entirely, again, the price tag for >>> needs may well exceed current “wants” — many of which, judging by the >>> survey results the CCBC circulated yesterday, are pragmatic, and reflect a >>> community’s needs in 2022, not 2012. >>> $25 million will seem like peanuts when it’s time to vote on whatever >>> the next iteration of this process is 5 or 10 years down the line. And >>> people will surely wonder then, if the vote is for a center in some unknown >>> location near Donelan’s, why it isn’t sited at Hartwell? >>> And around and around and around we can go, forever. >>> Lis >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:51 AM, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> That was then, this is now. >>> We have gone through some radical changes in the last several years. >>> Our economy is volatile. >>> Our work lives have changed, as have commuting patterns. >>> >>> Should put our fingers in our ears, hands over our eyes and act as if it >>> is 2012 all over again ? >>> >>> We need to be more flexible and creative to meet the needs ( and be >>> careful about “ wants”) of the town in 2022 and beyond. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Times have changed, and so must we. >>> >>> There is an opportunity tonight to be more creative. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:26 AM, DJCP <djcp0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Oh great, let's wash 10 years of work down the tube so we can start on a >>> new project. >>> Diana >>> Giles Rd >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 8:16 AM <jrob...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello friends, I will *not *be voting in favor of the community center >>>> project now… for several reasons explained below. If these considerations >>>> and others you have give you pause, I hope you will join those of us who >>>> are interested in further discussion. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> First, Lincoln’s once in a generation Comprehensive Plan, approved at >>>> Town Meeting ~ten years ago prioritized revitalizing our South Lincoln >>>> commercial center. *Without a vibrant place to gather, we risk >>>> becoming an inert, mono-culture suburb,* of increasingly high priced >>>> single family homes and residents who can afford them. A vital Mall at our >>>> center would be a place to gather, meet with friends, and exchange ideas >>>> with others who have diverse backgrounds and views. Before locating a COA >>>> or Community Center building at the school property we should evaluate its >>>> potential to jump-start and support commercial and civic growth at the mall >>>> and help Lincoln slowly and steadily transition into the dynamic community >>>> we can be. It’s time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We haven’t had a thorough review of town goals or prioritized them >>>> since the Comprehensive Plan. If we choose to ignore the last Comprehensive >>>> Plan, let’s plan again. Let’s agree on priorities. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There seems to be an ongoing, important, and complex discussion re the >>>> distinctions and requirements of a community center vs. a facility for our >>>> Council on Aging program….prudence dictates these be thoroughly studied >>>> and resolved before being considered for funding by town meeting. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> And this project will cause real estate taxes to increase above the >>>> rate of inflation, again. It will be particularly troubling now for seniors >>>> living on a fixed income >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Let’s consider/reconsider these matters fully before we vote for a >>>> community center or a COA facility at school property. Let’s get this >>>> right. Please consider voting No. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, Joe >>>> >>>> Joe Robbat >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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