So...what are we going to do with all these tossed salads and scrambled eggs? Leadership?
On Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 8:52 AM Carol Ryan <urch...@comcast.net> wrote: > Thank you Mr Gregg for the clarification that you are indeed a Lincoln > taxpayer. > On a side note: > I personally am very much in favor of sharing facilities in our > neighboring towns. For example The Beede Center in Concord and The Weston > AIC are both fantastic facilities close by. I encourage people who are > looking for community to consider a visit to either of these places. I am > sure there are other meeting up venues around as well. > Best, Carolyn Ryan > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 17, 2023, at 8:33 AM, john gregg <jgreg...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > To make it clear I am currently a resident of Sudbury and still own a > property in Lincoln that I pay taxes on! I lived in Lincoln for @20 years > and lived through the school fiasco where my child attended K-8 so I am > giving my insight as to how the school debate is directly correlating to > the Community Center discussion. Where I live now does not invalidate my > views or thoughts on the subject which comes from a good place. > > It is important that the Town of Lincoln make a decision in the best > interest of all the residents of Lincoln. We had to endure years of my son > going to a school that was way past its time and listen to a debate similar > to this conversation, don't make the same mistake . A new school was needed > many years ago and instead of accepting this fact it became a debate until > finally all the parents of the kids in the school rallied to make it happen > because the school was not safe nor functional. Not sure how this plays out > but Pierce House or Bemis Hall do not and will not fill the needs of the > elderly, LEAP as well as all the services of the Parks and Rec Dept and is > not a responsible action nor is it giving back to society! A great idea > would be to have a Town Fundraiser, an Auto Show at Peirce House with > raffles and beautiful cars on the lawn. > > The question for the community becomes can you build something that > fills the needs of LEAP, Council on Aging, as well as the Parks and Rec > Dept where it can be an investment, there are ways to make this pay for > itself. The debate of the school was the same, why was it necessary to > build a school that would be so costly? Well, it was an investment in the > children of the community as well as the teachers to provide a safe, > welcoming, and functional environment. This mean updating the buildings to > have working electrical outlets, no leaky roofs, and more modern ways of > utilizing space for a positive learning experience. No parent would have > walked into Lincoln Schools in 2018 and chosen to pay taxes in Lincoln over > say Weston or Wayland. But even then after everything was done the Brooks > Gym still houses its original floor which was always unsafe for the kids to > play on as it was more like an ice rink than a gym floor. > > Here is a snippet of the School discussion to revisit, and please note > the same underlying theme, where can the costs occur, how to cut corners to > save money today. Also note once the problems got so severe the project > needed to happen and it cost @$93 Million: > > Four years earlier, *the MSBA offered to pay $21 million toward a new > school costing $49 million if residents agreed by a two-thirds majority to > fund their share*. But the margin at a Special Town Meeting in November > 2012 was 370-321 votes (54 percent to 45 percent), so the funding offer was > withdrawn and the town had to begin the process all over again. The MSBA > also declined to offer funding in 2013 and 2015. At Town Meeting in March > 2016 > <https://www.lincolnsquirrel.com/residents-vote-to-try-for-school-funding-again/>, > residents overwhelmingly approved the latest application to the MSBA. > > In 2014, consultants Dore and Whittier determined that the school > needed immediate work costing $8.4 million > <https://www.lincolnsquirrel.com/school-needs-at-least-27-5m-even-without-cafeterias-architects-say/> > including > a new roof for the entire building, a new exterior wall for the Reed Gym, > and a new boiler room and pumping equipment for the Smith > building. However, even if residents approved funding for that work, the > town would have to spend several million dollars more, because by state > law, when school renovation costs exceed a certain percentage of the > building’s assessed value, the building must also be brought up to current > code for handicapped accessibility. For the Lincoln School, the trigger > point in 2014 was about $6.5 million. > Meeting only the immediate and near-term facilities needs of the school > with no educational improvements or cafeteria would cost more than $27 > million, the consultants said, while a comprehensive project meeting all > facilities and educational needs would cost almost $60 million. > > https://lincolnsquirrel.com/2016/12/state-says-no-to-lincoln-school-funding-for-the-third-time/ > > > > > > Best Regards, > John Gregg > Still Paying Taxes in Lincoln > Reside in 01776 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 17, 2023, at 6:55 AM, Carol Ryan <urch...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > Dear Lincoln , > As a current home owner in Lincoln I would like to point out that the > previous post has been written by a resident of Sudbury . > It is my hope that careful consideration of how this project will impact > the residents of Lincoln in all income brackets is at the top of the agenda. > Carolyn Ryan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 16, 2023, at 2:25 PM, john gregg via Lincoln < > lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: > > > > The best gift a town or society can give is to give back. Do you think the > people who built Pierce home or Bemis Hall or LPS so many years ago were > concerned about the family dichotomy of 2023? Nope, that is why they build > a capsule to explain what things were like back then so when they take tehm > down it can explain what the times were like many years ago. > > I find it really concerning that the same people who enforced the shut > down of a new school paid for by the State want to also now shut down a > Community Center. New bathrooms and doorways in a building built before the > people who lived through WWII is not the answer, and kids just need a place > to grow, maybe a new Magic Garden Center for pre-K. Time to pay back > Lincoln for all that land you accrued via the land you were given, I am > sure everyone in the town agrees this land was taken from the Indians and > the Native American respected their elders and raised their children to be > leaders. > > But yet the voices here want money for speed bumps than to allow the > elderly a place to be able to have some comfort and the youth have a place > to assimilate and attract young families to the TOWN who will pay the money > to live in a safe town and a community who can have after school programs > and and a Parks and Rec Department to function. I will also again speak > highly of what the Parks and Rec Dept. provides; the pool and tennis courts > are part of the Rec Dept,, basketball as well as many other activities. But > yet lets refurbish Bemis Hall so the locals in Lincoln can feel good about > themselves. > > I honestly cannot comprehend how a kitchen that "catering standards so > could also have coffee/tea & snacks available." is caring for people, that > is what you do for guests you do not want to stay long or how your treat > your dog or cat. > > The Town has no options but to build a new building, with updated > facilities mot spend millions to renovate something that is historic but > not functional. > > Best Regards, > John Gregg > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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