*What does it mean to 'maintain the character' of a town that is beyond the reach of so many people? * Do distributed housing. Allow people to come, don't pack up. Option E is created. further creativity can emerge, We just have to think on behalf of the land. Best regards, Bijoy Misra
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 10:36 AM Bob Kupperstein <bobk...@gmail.com> wrote: > IMO, the recent Boston Globe Spotlight series did an excellent job of > explaining how use of zoning laws and local governance have created our > current state of economic/racial inequities, as well as the current housing > shortage. > > The example towns they used did not include Lincoln, but if the arguments > against housing/transportation development mirror those brought up here. > > What does it mean to 'maintain the character' of a town that is beyond the > reach of so many people? > > -Bob > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 6:26 PM Terri via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > wrote: > >> Neighbor to neighbor... This is sad to read. >> Respectfully, I am not aware of any laws passed "to control the movement >> of people who look like you or with more Melanin" especially by residents >> of Lincoln. I always welcome educating myself on State laws as I will be >> the first to admit... I did NOT attend law school. >> With regards to the 2 acre zoning.... perhaps you should invite the >> planning board to give us all a historical perspective of the zoning of >> Lincoln. Hopefully, they can enlighten us all so we can remind each other >> that we are ALL on the same side. >> >> Warmly, >> Terri Kafina >> Giles >> >> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 10:15:54 AM EST, DJCP <djcp0...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> It is ridiculous to keep relying on past laurels as if Lincoln is some >> sort of beacon of affordable housing. Look around. It is not. It is not >> diverse, and certainly not as diverse as it could be if 2-acre zoning was >> not instituted. I am frequently in all-white spaces. When residents say >> they want to "control" development - well, that smacks to me as >> exclusionary. Many laws have been passed to control the rights and >> movement of people who look like me - not to mention those with much more >> melanin. Regardless of the wholesome intent of those who instituted the >> zoning in the first place, the effect it has had is to keep generational >> wealth (i.e., home ownership) mostly with white people. At the very least >> acknowledge the disparate effect of this type of zoning, even if you insist >> on keeping the founders on a pedestal. >> >> Diana >> Giles Rd >> >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 11:32 PM Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It is interesting and disappointing to read this. >> Lincoln stood out for creating affordable housing/ mixed income housing >> long before others. >> Lincoln Woods, a cooperative mixed income development led the way in the >> 1970s. >> >> Development of new types of multi- family housing, rental and >> home-ownership, have continued. >> Today, 40% of our housing units are multi-family, and 13% of all housing >> is state- certified “affordable.” >> So, I am not sure what data this report relies on. >> >> Certainly, most of our single family homes prices have made us >> discriminatory… by income. >> It would be great to come up with a program to address that. >> But the HCA is not such a program. >> In fact, HCA rezoning creates further economic discrimination by capping >> affordability and promoting 90% of all units as “ market rate” and often >> luxury. >> This would undercut Lincoln’s history of inclusionary zoning, requiring >> all developments offer a minimum of 15% affordable units. >> >> To me, that makes HCA zoning discriminatory, by Lincoln standards. >> >> So much for AI! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 26, 2023, at 10:09 PM, Ray Shepard <kathleenshep...@verizon.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> *From the perspective of ChatGPT...*. >> >> *What towns in Massachusetts are known for exclusionary zoning?* >> >> *ChatGPT* >> Several towns in Massachusetts have been identified for their practices >> of exclusionary zoning. These towns often use zoning laws to limit the >> development of affordable housing, resulting in a lack of diversity in >> housing types and prices. Some notable examples include: >> Weston: Known for its large lot zoning, which requires a significant >> amount of land per housing unit, making it difficult for smaller, more >> affordable homes to be built. >> Dover: Similar to Weston, Dover also employs large lot zoning, which >> effectively limits the availability of affordable housing options. >> * Lincoln: This town is known for its strict zoning regulations that >> limit the types and densities of allowable housing, often pricing out >> lower-income families.* >> Wellesley: Wellesley has been cited for using zoning laws to restrict the >> development of multi-family housing, which tends to be more affordable. >> Lexington: Known for its high property values and zoning practices that >> favor single-family homes, limiting more affordable housing options. >> *These towns, among others in Massachusetts, often use zoning as a tool >> to maintain a certain demographic and economic status quo, leading to >> criticism regarding social equity and inclusiveness.* >> >> >> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 09:28:56 PM EST, Sara Mattes < >> samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> It had absolutely NOTHING to do with preventing “undesirable” people >> moving in. >> It had to do with land preservation and conservation and concern over the >> inability of the town finances to support a rapid growth in population. >> We had no commercial base, except a few small business along Rt.2A and >> 117. >> >> Racial and ethnic (antisemitism) was an issue a bit later-it was near >> impossible to buy a house in Lincoln if you were Black or Jewish. >> Story goes that a seller was present at the tour and always expressed >> interest in who would be the buyer. >> If a Jew managed to get a showing, the seller would take their time and >> then turn down the offer. >> If you were black, it was next to impossible to get a showing. >> I moved here in 1976, and told that was the case, even then. >> >> It had nothing to do with zoning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ >> Sara Mattes >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 26, 2023, at 8:36 PM, DJCP <djcp0...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Two acre zoning was meant as a means of "control" (a word currently >> bandied about without any shame) after WWII housing booms to prevent too >> much housing being built and "undesirable" people moving in. Anyone who has >> given an ounce of attention to the anti racism reckoning we are currently >> going thru shouldn't have a problem seeing through any other rationale >> given for such zoning. >> >> Diana >> Giles Rd >> >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 7:55 PM Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Two acre zoning was to protect wetlands and open space and encourage land >> conservation. >> It bought time to allow for creative planning and development efforts. >> I recommend reading *A Rich Harvest *to better understand the arc of our >> history and the role land protection has played. >> Also, Bob Lemire’s book, *Creative Land Development *has been leading >> light not just in Lincoln, but nationally. >> >> There is such to be proud of and to be thankful for- for the wisdom of >> those who did big picture thinking in the past, and made wise investments >> to ensure most of the plans were realized. >> The environment thanks us for the tree cover and the carbon sink our land >> provides. >> The environment thanks us for wetlands protection. >> Folks in our forward-thinking affordable housing developments thank us. >> Seniors who now have multiple housing choices for down-sizing thank us. >> Those seeking respite from the city to walk our trails and fields thank >> us. >> >> >> We need to build on that-move forward, and add to it-esp. with more >> housing choices,-but to do it in cautious, thoughtful and deliberate ways. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------ >> Sara Mattes >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 26, 2023, at 12:18 PM, Louis Zipes <louiszi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> And our emergency services are quite familiar with our part of 117 since >> there are so many accidents due to our bucolic scenery and other historical >> roadways. >> >> I especially find it fascinating that Lincoln was the first town in >> Massachusetts to adopt two acre housing. So much history to be proud of! >> >> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 12:01 PM Ken Hurd <kenh...@keha.com> wrote: >> >> Sara, >> >> Your comment is very misleading. >> >> Cold Brook Crossing is not at all what one might see in Lincoln Station >> because of the controls that the Planning Board would have over any complex >> with the Site Plan Review section of Lincoln’s Zoning Bylaws that are >> already in place. >> >> Cold Brook Crossing is an example of Chapter 40B housing in which >> developers are allowed to bypass zoning when the SHI (Subsidized Housing >> Inventory) is under 10%. These are two different animals. >> >> I’m sorry you felt you needed to resort to such a scare tactic in this >> discussion. >> >> Ken Hurd >> >> Lifting the Human Spirit by Design >> 781-259-3300 >> 781-259-8900 cell >> www.keha.com >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 26, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 117 offers a lovely drive from Lincoln to Leominster, and a history >> lesson as you see the landscape and the towns change as you head west. >> >> Nearby, is a starling lesson. >> >> Just past Nine Acre Corner in Concord, and over the Sudbury line, on your >> right as you head west, you will see Cold Brook Crossing. >> It is a new housing development, many units completed and more under >> construction. >> It is a model for what we might see on Lincoln, esp. at the mall. >> >> Take a drive and see. >> Is that what we want? >> You be the judge. >> >> ------ >> Sara Mattes >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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