That makes sense, like any project there is a project charter and
objectives.

Is this a formal document that Is on the public record or informal?

Rob

*Robert Ahlert* | *781.738.1069* | robahl...@gmail.com


On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:41 PM Donald seckler <seckle...@comcast.net> wrote:

> The term and work of a committee are determined by the “charge” that the
> Selects formulate when they solicit volunteers. When the work is complete
> the committee disbands.
> The charge is the blueprint and the contract regulating the process.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Don Seckler
>
> Sent via cell
>
> On Jan 4, 2024, at 12:47 PM, Paul Shorb <paul.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Rob -
> Someone else with a longer history & better memory than I probably
> could answer your interesting historical trend question better than I
> could. But for what it's worth, my impression is that it has depended on
> the topic at hand.
>
> E.g., in the last few years since I have been on the Lincoln Green Energy
> Committee, we have proposed several warrant articles for vote at Town
> Meeting and have advocated in a transparent way for a "yes" vote on each.
> (E.g., in 2021, a general resolution re climate policy; in 2022, a "home
> rule petition" to the state legislature; and in 2023, both adopting the
> newly-offered opt-in stretch energy code and volunteering to participate in
> the "ten-town pilot" program.) In each case we tried to address concerns
> raised (e.g., cost, practicality, impact on the grid, etc.), both before
> and during the meeting, so I think voters were able to make a well-informed
> choice to vote yes or no.
>
> On the other hand, as I recall the high-stakes vote several years ago on
> how to renovate the Lincoln Public School was teed up as several options
> that were sorted through by a structured series of several votes at the
> Town Meeting, without the School Board or the ad hoc school building
> committee advocating for any one of them.
>
> - Paul
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 12:06 PM Robert Ahlert <robahl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has it always been done this way that advisory committees come up with
>> specific recommendations rather than just options with corresponding pros
>> and cons? Or does it depend on the topic at hand if they are creating
>> recommendations versus just options?
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> *Robert Ahlert* | *781.738.1069* | robahl...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:02 AM Paul Shorb <paul.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob -
>>> I agree that any such presentation by a Town committee at Town Meeting
>>> should make a full good-faith attempt to be fair and accurate. I
>>> haven't noticed any deviations from that general rule.
>>>
>>> However, I do not agree that all such presentations should be "neutral."
>>> Rather, it is often very appropriate for a Town committee to develop and
>>> make a recommendation as to a particular course of action.  A presentation
>>> at Town Meeting of such a recommendation would naturally include the
>>> reasons for the recommendation and in effect advocate for it. In the case
>>> of the recent  initial presentations regarding HCA and CCBC, to me their
>>> length seemed very appropriate, in light of the complexity of the issues
>>> and how much factual grounding we in the audience deserved before we voted
>>> on them. Personally, I appreciated the great care that went into developing
>>> them, and the fact that they tried to address objections and concerns that
>>> had been raised at prior public meetings, on Lincoln Talk, and/or in the
>>> Lincoln Squirrel.
>>>
>>> I didn't see the moderator invite the committee to rebut every comment
>>> made in opposition to its recommendation. Rather, my impression is that the
>>> moderator uses good judgment as to when to invite the committee to respond,
>>> such as in response to a direct question or to provide relevant facts or
>>> clarification.
>>>
>>> As to how much total time was allocated to Town Meeting discussion, I
>>> think your beef is not with any Town committee but rather with the
>>> supermajority of attendees who eventually voted in support of calling the
>>> question.
>>>
>>> - Paul Shorb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 7:18 PM Robert Domnitz <bobdom...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On December 8, 2023, WBUR's On Point posted a podcast of a discussion
>>>> between news analyst Jack Beatty and Meghna Chakrabarty. The podcast is
>>>> titled, "The Disappearance of Political Persuasion." It references, in
>>>> part, the ideas of philosopher John Stuart Mill. The discussion advanced
>>>> the premise that democracy is endangered by the demise of political debate
>>>> in our country. Partisans on both sides of an issue vilify their
>>>> opposition. Listening is a lost art. Frustrated citizens get turned off and
>>>> tune out. This is a national issue of critical importance. Is it also a
>>>> local issue that we should be concerned about here in Lincoln? Yes, it is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe we can do better. In the 25 years I've lived in Lincoln, Town
>>>> government has become more interested in leading - or controlling - and
>>>> less interested in listening. Our Town Meeting is now largely an exercise
>>>> in rubber-stamping the recommendations of town committees. Although
>>>> residents who attend Town Meeting are, in effect, the Town's legislators,
>>>> they need objective information to make decisions. Do they get objective,
>>>> balanced information from Town committees? Increasingly, the answer is no.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We can appreciate the efforts of town volunteers that investigate
>>>> issues of importance to the town. However, when we receive recommendations
>>>> from town committees we should recognize that those recommendations result
>>>> from research that has been filtered through the particular values and
>>>> priorities that their members bring to the table. By the time a committee
>>>> recommends a proposal at Town Meeting, the committee is invested in the
>>>> outcome. We rarely get a neutral summary of the pros and cons. If a
>>>> committee member dissents from the majority's recommendation, we rarely
>>>> hear about it. If we want to consider "the other side of the story," we
>>>> need to figure it out on our own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hasten to add that there is one Town committee that deserves high
>>>> praise for the respect they give to residents at Town Meeting. I am
>>>> referring to the Finance Committee. Year after year, they give a
>>>> scrupulously neutral accounting of the financial implications of particular
>>>> proposals. Sometimes, when I'm feeling lazy, I wish FinCom would just tell
>>>> me which way to vote. But they don't do that. They force us to weigh the
>>>> options and think. Contrast that approach with the advocacy position taken
>>>> by virtually every other Town committee that proposes something at Town
>>>> Meeting. If we're wondering about the possible downside of a proposal, we
>>>> have to either figure it out on our own, read Lincolntalk (where it's hard
>>>> to separate fact from fiction or conjecture), or hope that someone at Town
>>>> Meeting can use their rigidly enforced two minutes to deliver a fact-based
>>>> explanation of why a proposal should be opposed. Although our town
>>>> committees are ideally positioned to give us a neutral summary of the pros
>>>> and cons, they rarely do that. They consistently give us only the reasons
>>>> to vote "yes."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Procedures currently followed at Town Meeting reinforce the imbalance
>>>> between town committees and residents who want balanced information. My
>>>> sense is that this imbalance has accelerated in the last year or two. For
>>>> example, the two minute rule for speakers seems to have sprung up
>>>> spontaneously at the 2023 March Annual Town Meeting. Town Meeting
>>>> procedures that were printed in the Warrant for the ATM during the period
>>>> 2007 - 2022 contain this flexible language for speakers from the audience:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "...there is no hard and fast rule as to time but for speakers from the
>>>> audience floor a two to three minute period should be sufficient."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 2023 ATM Warrant tightened this language:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Please keep your comments to no more than two minutes." The new two
>>>> minute rule has been rigidly enforced.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In contrast, rules for the sponsors of Town Meeting articles have been
>>>> relaxed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 2007 - 2022 Warrants had a "...guideline..." of "...no more than
>>>> ten minutes" for sponsors of articles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 2023 Warrant had no guideline or limit for sponsors of articles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do we get an informed, democratic outcome when residents' comments are
>>>> tightly limited, while town committees are given as much time as they need
>>>> to advocate for their proposals and then repeatedly allowed to rebut
>>>> comments from the audience?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you arrive at Town Meeting always knowing in advance how you'll
>>>> vote, you might think that two minutes for speakers is too generous. But
>>>> John Stuart Mill would not be happy with you (see 1st paragraph and listen
>>>> to the podcast).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Going forward, here are two things for us to work on:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First, in its role as the Town's legislative body, Town Meeting should
>>>> take the opportunity to discuss and approve a set of rules that promote
>>>> robust, even-handed debate. And second, let's encourage our Town committees
>>>> to follow FinCom's example by presenting a more neutral summary of their
>>>> proposals.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Domnitz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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