On 21/01/2015 8:47 PM, David Boxall wrote: > On 21/01/2015 11:20 AM, Jim Birch wrote: >> ... >> I can't see that global warming could wipe out the human race. It's a >> fantasy. ... not that the human >> race will be wiped out. It won't. >> ... > Jim, nothing lasts forever. Not even us. I hate to break it to you, but > the human race will end. > > There have been repeated warnings that we could be agents of our own > destruction: > http://350orbust.com/2010/07/23/carl-sagan-and-stephen-hawking-on-effects-of-global-warming-the-runaway-greenhouse-effect-on-venus-is-a-valuable-reminder-to-take-the-increasing-greenhouse-effect-on-earth-seriously/. > > Nobody says it's inevitable, nobody says it's even likely, but to deny > the risk is to increase it. >
Good reply and intent, but needs the correction: This culture---this way of life---will not (and cannot) last forever. Humans can survive if we take down this culture and stop it from killing what's left of the planet (thinking now of all the cultures that can and do exist without killing the planet and have survived for hundreds of thousands of years---indigenous Australia for one). That being said though, yes, if we don't stop this culture, we'll all be dead. BUT the point is humans are not inherently the drivers of the destruction. Industrialised humans are. It's /t//his culture /that is killing the planet. And we can stop this culture. And further, the problem with Stephen Hawking and ilk is that their "solutions" are rather than recognise that this culture is killing the planet---and hence that is the thing that must be stopped---the solution is to not drop this culture and just colonise space and power on as usual with the same old bullshit, a concept and idea and non-"solution" which is completely out of touch with physical reality. We all---humans (and industrial humans) and non-humans alike---are all dead without this planet. Ask a 5 year old. If the planet is dying because we're burning oil and gas, what do we do to stop it? If you have a choice to change your culture or die (but not only just yourself die, BUT EVERYONE ELSE TOO), what would you do? The questions are really easy if your allegence is to the real physical world, rather than this piece of shit culture that just wants to create a dead toxic mimic of the real world (and will succeed if we don't stop it --- plus we'll die too). 2c. Jore _______________________________________________ Link mailing list Link@mailman.anu.edu.au http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link
