On Thu, 2016-07-28 at 12:49 +1000, David Lochrin wrote: > The main point I'm making is that nobody understands the nature of > consciousness, even Douglas Hofstatder.
And he certainly doesn't claim to. Nor does he have much faith in "strong AI" as far as I can see. He *does* think that brain and minds are machines, though. By which he means that they are things existing in and entirely bound by the laws of physics. > But on the other, physics has no scope for perception to arise. What?!? Either you are saying there as no such thing as perception, or you are saying perception exists outside physics. Both of those seem pretty insupportable. Perception has already arisen, and you and I are living proof of it. Well, I am. Can't speak for you. :-) > Yes, it wasn't intended to be deconstructed too much! But I'm afraid > I don't have time to go there just at the moment. I have an excellent proof of machine intelligence, but this email is too small to contain it. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (ka...@biplane.com.au) http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer http://twitter.com/kauer389 GPG fingerprint: E00D 64ED 9C6A 8605 21E0 0ED0 EE64 2BEE CBCB C38B Old fingerprint: 3C41 82BE A9E7 99A1 B931 5AE7 7638 0147 2C3C 2AC4
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