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On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:06 PM, Kate Draven <[email protected]> wrote:
I really don't get what everyone is talking about. It's actually very simple.
Perhaps it's a MS and Apple thing?
I've been using linphone for years without problems.
I have people with no computer experience setting it up in about 30 mins with
some basic help.

What OS/Distro is everyone running. I did see lots of problems with most
ubuntus.

Kate

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 It seems that one needs to be skilled at computer programming to use
the Linphone interface successfully. That is my point here... I am not
 a code savvy person. I just need an interface that allows me to make
phone calls. Once you start telling me that I have to troubleshoot the
 code to make it work then I am lost.  This is definitely not a
 user-friendly application.

 Ken

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM, Ken <[email protected]> wrote:
 >
 >
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:26 PM, Gerard Vanderveken <[email protected]>
 > wrote:
 >> Hi Ken,
 >>
 >> It is a kind of Zip file. Use 7-zip or équivalent to extract the
 >> file.
 >>
 >> Rename the resulting file eventual with addition of .txt for more
 >> convience and/or open it with a text viewer/editor.
 >>
 >>
 >> Your file is perfect readable, but i'm not qualified enough to
 >> interpret the messages.
 >>
 > Neither am I...!
 >> Success,
 >>
 >> Gerard
 >>
 >> Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 12:10:
 >>
 >>> I tried a call and here is the log entry that I received.
>>> https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz
 >>>
 >>> I cannot open it so I'm not sure about what to do?
 >>>
 >>> Thanks, Ken
 >>>
 >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:08 PM, Gerard Vanderveken
 >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
 >>>> Hi Ken,
 >>>>
 >>>> Did you allready inspect the logs?
 >>>>
 >>>> menu - preferences - advanced - debugging - set to on
 >>>>
 >>>> menu - about - clear logs
 >>>>
 >>>> Do your tests for connecting
 >>>>
 >>>> menu - about - send logs (to yourself)
 >>>>
 >>>> Menu item texts are translated and may slightly differ.
 >>>>
 >>>> Greetz
 >>>>
 >>>> Gerard
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 10:29:
 >>>>
 >>>>> Hi Kate.
 >>>>>
>>>>> Main Symptom: I cannot make outbound calls. I do not find the UI
 >>>>> to be very intuitive or helpful in directing the user in this
>>>>> regard. There is no dial pad or audible feedback. I see something >>>>> that looks like the search bar for a web browser... Am I supposed >>>>> to enter the number that I want to call into this bar? I try that >>>>> and it appears to be trying to connect the call although there is
 >>>>> no dial tone or audible ringing, just some dots that spin in a
>>>>> circle and then the call attempt appears to time out. I have to >>>>> assume all of this because there are no messages or feedback from >>>>> the UI that tells me what it is or isn't doing. I have no idea >>>>> of what is happening or why the call does not connect. That is
 >>>>> about all that I can tell you.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> I'm pretty sure that my SIP account registers when the program
 >>>>> starts but that is about all that I can tell you.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Thanks, Ken
 >>>>>
 >>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:27 PM, Kate Draven
 >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
 >>>>>> On Thursday 25 June 2020, Ken wrote:
>>>>>>> I just installed the 4.2 beta "App Image" version of Linphone >>>>>>> on my Linux Mint Desktop with the hope that I might actually be
 >>>>>>> able to make calls with it from my personal, Xeloq, SIP
>>>>>>> account. The account will register but I have never been able >>>>>>> to make a call. It is amusing to see all of the highly detailed >>>>>>> technical questions being posted here and I can sympathize with
 >>>>>>> the users because I have never been able to get the blinking
 >>>>>>> thing to work at all.
 >>>>>>
>>>>>> ok strange because I use it all the time with no problems. Parts
 >>>>>> LFS and PCLOS with Trinity DE. What exactly are the symptoms?
 >>>>>> Thanks, Kate _______________________________________________
 >>>>>> Linphone-users mailing list [email protected]
 >>>>>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users
 >>>>>
 >>>>> _______________________________________________
 >>>>> Linphone-users mailing list
 >>>>> [email protected]
 >>>>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users
 >>>
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<div id="geary-body" dir="auto">It seems that one needs to be skilled at
computer programming to use the Linphone interface successfully. &nbsp;That is my point here... I am not a code savvy person. I just need an interface that allows me to make phone calls. Once you start telling me that I have to
troubleshoot the code to make it work then I am lost. &nbsp;This is
definitely not a user-friendly
application.<div><br></div><div>Ken</div></div><div id="geary-quote"
dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM, Ken
&lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><div
id="geary-body" dir="auto"><div><br></div></div><div id="geary-quote"
dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:26 PM, Gerard Vanderveken
&lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><meta
http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
 <p>Hi Ken,</p>
 <p>It is a kind of Zip file. Use 7-zip or équivalent to extract the
file.</p>
 <p>Rename the resulting file eventual with addition of .txt for more
convience and/or open it with a text viewer/editor.</p>
 <div id="signature">&nbsp;</div>
<p>Your file is perfect readable, but i'm not qualified enough to interpret
the messages.</p></blockquote><b>Neither am I...!</b><br><blockquote
type="cite">
 <p>Success,</p>
 <p>Gerard</p>
 <p id="reply-intro">Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 12:10:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px
solid; margin: 0">
 <div id="replybody1">
 <div id="v1geary-body" dir="auto">
 <div>I tried a call and here is the log entry that I received.</div>
 <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"><a
href="https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz";
target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer">https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">&nbsp;</span></div> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">I cannot open it so I'm
not sure about what to do?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">&nbsp;</span></div> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Thanks, Ken</span></div>
 </div>
<div id="v1geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:08 PM,
Gerard Vanderveken &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px
solid; margin: 0">
 <p>Hi Ken,</p>
 <p>Did you allready inspect the logs?</p>
 <p>menu - preferences - advanced - debugging - set to on</p>
 <p>menu - about - clear logs</p>
 <p>Do your tests for connecting</p>
 <p>menu - about - send logs (to yourself)</p>
 <p>Menu item texts are translated and may slightly differ.</p>
 <p>Greetz</p>
 <p>Gerard</p>
 <p><br></p>
 <p><br></p>
 <div id="v1signature">&nbsp;</div>
 <p><br></p>
 <p id="v1reply-intro">Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 10:29:</p>
<blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin:
0;">
 <div id="v1replybody1">
 <div id="v1v1geary-body" dir="auto">
 <div>Hi Kate.</div>
 <div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Main Symptom: I cannot make outbound calls. &nbsp;I do not find the UI
to be very intuitive or helpful in directing the user in this regard. There is no dial pad or audible feedback. I see something that looks like the search bar for a web browser... Am I supposed to enter the number that I want to call into this bar? I try that and it appears to be trying to connect the call although there is no dial tone or audible ringing, just some dots that spin in a circle and then the call attempt appears to time out. &nbsp;I have to assume all of this because there are no messages or feedback from the UI that tells me what it is or isn't doing. &nbsp;I have no idea of what is happening or why the call does not connect. &nbsp;That is about all that I
can tell you.</div>
 <div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I'm pretty sure that my SIP account registers when the program starts
but that is about all that I can tell you.</div>
 <div>&nbsp;</div>
 <div>Thanks, Ken</div>
 </div>
<div id="v1v1geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:27 PM,
Kate Draven &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin:
0;">
<div class="v1v1plaintext" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">On Thursday 25
June 2020, Ken wrote:
<blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin:
0;">I just installed the 4.2 beta "App Image" version of Linphone on my Linux Mint Desktop with the hope that I might actually be able to make calls with it from my personal, Xeloq, SIP account. The account will register but I have
never been able to make a call. It is amusing to see all of the highly
detailed technical questions being posted here and I can sympathize with the users because I have never been able to get the blinking thing to work at
all.</blockquote>
ok strange because I use it all the time with no problems. Parts LFS and
PCLOS with Trinity DE. What exactly are the symptoms? Thanks, Kate
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rel="noreferrer">[email protected]</a><br><a
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