> I'm a MVS systems engineer who is now doing some LINUX work.
> As is the trend these days, Management wants to know what cost savings
> they can achieve by moving workloads to the LINUX partition.
> We are running SuSe 7.0 on a Z67 and Z900 platforms .
> I have been asked in particular whether the following (points below) are
> possible
> on our mainframe LINUX partitions. Apologies if the questions may sound stupid
> or  inconsistent ....
>
> 1) A product called VMWARE was used on a LINUX system on PC to successfully test
>  Windows 2000
> emulation and running INTEL type work. Will we be able to use VIF on mainframe
> SuSe to achieve
>  the same success ?.
> With VIF how many LINUX "images" will I be able to create on one partition on
> the mainframe ?
>  Does anybody know the cost of VIF (both monthly and once off...).

        VMWare is only for PCs, not for other architectures.  There's
        bochs, but then the CPU is interpreting the intel instruction
        set-  not a good use of resources.

        VIF, BTW, is passe and has been announced as "withdrawn from
        marketing" from big blue.

        Linux runs nicely enough in an LPAR.  If you have an LPAR
        running VM (or z/VM) then you can run more instances of
        Linux than the remaining number of LPARs on the system.  Of
        course, VM pricing is another animal, but it's an enabling
        technology.

        The big question is...

                "Why do you want to run Windows 2000?"

        I don't even want to run it on my PC.  If it wasn't for the
        "groupware" package I hafta run at work, I'd reclaim my Windoze
        partition pretty darn fast.

> 2) Can we run NT servers under VIF ??? If so, What is the limit and is it one
> server per "image" ? ...

        There's something called "Samba" available on all Linux distros
        (that I know of) that I use heavily (and even on AIX boxes, too)
        to provide windows-accessible disk shares (and even a few
        printer shares, too) so a windows "server" isn't necessary-
        unless you need to run M$'s software itself on the server (like
        Infection Express or some such).

        The problem you're facing is that you don't know what Linux can
        really do for you.  Download the "Linux for S/390" redbook,
        print it, read it, enjoy;  There's a link to it on the
        http://linuxvm.org/ website (up near the top!).  The reason
        you can consolidate all (or most) of your servers to an s/390
        (using VM for high "body counts", though w/ Linux more than
        one service can reside on a server, unlike NT) is that Linux's
        environment itself INCLUDES the majority of services you will
        need-  which can then be made available to the various client
        systems.

        There are, BTW, Linux-resident mail servers that will mimic
        Outlook Express;  Unfortunately, it is OE's client that excels
        at forwarding e-mail virii, so you're still hosed if you use
        that environment.  I'd almost recommend Lotus Notes (despite a
        lack of s/390 Linux server S/W just now) but it's the worst
        example of groupware on the planet-  except for ALL OF THE
        OTHER groupware packages.  Poleshuck's Law of Competition still
        applies.

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