Alan Altmark wrote:
> If you *do* know how the application is implemented and fully understand
> the relationships of all the files, then you can build customized backup
> strategies.
You can just put all relevant files on a single dasd (for flashcopy)
or LVM volume (for dm-snapshot). Seems easy enough to me.

> But rather than focus on that "edge" condition, we are all, I think, in
> violent agreement that you cannot take a volume-by-volume physical backup
> from outside a running Linux system and expect to have a usable backup.
That is a wrong assumption, I clearly disagree with it. If planned
proper, and I agree that there are lots of things one can do wrong
when planning the setup, physical backup of mounted and actively used
volumes _is_ reliable.

> Shared dasd on System z has all the same issues that shared LUNs have on
> distributed systems.  The backup *strategies* are identical, even if the
> mechanisms used to create the backups are not.
Dm-snapshot also works with shared LUNs, and Flashcopy would also do
the job if the storage server in the distributed world is a shark that
supports it.

cheers,
Carsten

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