I must admit that being predominantly a mainframe user under z/OS, I
also FTP download files to the PC, edit them and FTP upload them again
IF I have a significant amount of rework on some code. Copy/paste and
graphical screens (not fixed 43*80 screens used by ISPF-Edit) are just
more "friendly" than ISPF-Edit on the mainframe. But for normal editing
sessions, I still use ISPF-Edit. I, personally, don't like vi but don't
use it enough to become familiar with it.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Warren Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:47 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: What is vnc

It seems I've struck a nerve with my frustration using the native linux
editors.

I guess I'll rephrase and just say that the best alternative I have
found is to ftp to the linux workstation and gedit the file, then ftp it
back. It gives me the ability to manipulate large files with ease.
Others have suggested NFS and this might be an interesting alternative
to ftp'ing back and forth. My users won't be compiling anything so an
IDE seems like overkill. A seamless way for them to edit files on the
server database from their linux workstations would be a good solution.

thanks and sorry


----- Original Message ----
From: Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2007 8:13:20 PM
Subject: Re: What is vnc


On Mar 8, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Warren Taylor wrote:

> due to the uniqueness of our work, an IDE is probably not worth the
> expenditure and if I hear one more reference to vi I"m going to
> croak. These editors are far too weak to be considered for any type
> of serious work. even emacs is too weak to accomplish the task. we
> have a small number of users and currently most have linux
> workstations available to them.

Please enlighten me as to what task is so enormous that emacs can't
do it, but for which an IDE is unsuitable.  In fact, just enlighten
me as to what's a "stronger" editor than emacs.

I have difficulty envisioning this.  I have met better development
environments than Emacs + Speedbar + whatever-mode ( + some
combination of useful elisp), but not many of them, and only in
purpose-built environments.

Adam

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