So, if I'm understanding this correctly, taking a backup of a running Linux 
system from another LPAR gives you, at best, an unreliable backup.

That means that there are only two viable alternatives:

Shut down Linux and do the backup from another LPAR or,

Use a backup client that runs within Linux and therefore participates in its 
file system processing, getting all the current and correct data for the backup.

Is that about it?

The problem, as I see it, with backing up from another LPAR is that there is no 
incremental or differential backup capability. Nor is there any selective 
restore capability. Its an all-or-nothing backup/restore.

Paul Noble
Cuyahoga County Information Service Center


>>> Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/29/2007 10:20 AM >>>
Well OK, maybe the analogy wasn't absolutely perfect.  The point is on
reboot Linux will think it crashed, Linux will attempt to rebuild it's
filesystem, it may or may not work.  Don't take the chance with your
corporate data.

Rob van der Heij wrote:
> On 6/29/07, Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> It's exactly like rebooting a Linux PC after some sort of crash, it goes
>> through a filesystem check (fsck).
>
> There's a big difference. If the PC crashes you have a consistent
> state as it was at that time. But when you have z/OS on the other end
> copy the disk track by track, it is not consistent.
> It's like the panoramic photo's in Google Streetview, composed of
> multiple pictures taken short after each other from slightly different
> location. A person walking by could show on adjacent pictures and
> appear duplicate when you combine the pictures.
>
> If you use snapshot on the ESS, you do get a consistent copy. But then
> you still may loose data. Even on a journaled file system because only
> meta data is normally recovered.
>
> Rob
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