Use linemode telnet instead of tn3270. The characters are overwritten properly, 
and if you are using a telnet client that negotiates line buffering correctly, 
the chars are not echoed until they are replaced, giving you the effect you 
want.

 Few Windows clients implement this correctly (hummingbird does, never seen 
others do it right). Look for one tested with VMS - it uses a similar trick on 
TTYs.

You don't lose anything by not doing 3270 in this case since the console of a 
linux guest is effectively a TTY and telnet is plenty good for that purpose. 

Someday ill clean up and release the LDEV pseudodevice code I wrote for Linux...

-----Original Message-----
From: "Ayer, Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU" <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU>
Sent: 10/2/07 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Linux password and the VM console

Sorry to have posted two time .. I never did see the first one show up.

At this time we only use the 3270 option should there be a boot problem,
or network issues that will not allow putty to work .. something like
that.

Our Linux on Intel based staff, each time the 3270 access is needed,
highlight the fact that the password can be seen and "this will not
float" and "and another reason why Linux on the mainframe is not so
good" .... 

Was just looking for options .. if there were any ... sounds like not

Thanks all ... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Rich Smrcina
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:20 PM
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: Linux password and the VM console

I saw both posts, so there is apparently no way to not let it show.
Perhaps the bigger question may be, what are you using the 3270
interface for?  It is not intended for day-to-day use and when it is
used, should be done in a secure place so that the password is not
exposed.

Ayer, Paul W wrote:
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