I was wrong.  There is one JVM and 3 apps in that.
But we're seeing it on those that just have 1 app per JVM as well.

I appears some changes that went in last night may have changed the behavior
-- a bit too early to tell, more time and testing required there.  FP 11 +
Generational garbage collection (which also saves it looks like 13% CPU as
well).


Marcy Cortes

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-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Jones
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:06 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Another Linux swapping question

Well, my colleague Rob v.d. Heij beat me to the punch line, but this was
where I was headed....having more than one JVM inside a Linux guest is,
imho, asking for trouble. Is there a reason you need to have multiple JVMs
running at the same time?

Rob van der Heij wrote:
> On 10/22/07, Marcy Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Why would a server show such a high amount in cached when it is
>> needing to swap?
>
> In your case, it's probably the JVM heap that is resisting. The JVM
> does its own management of the heap. Just like in real life: when you
> have multiple managers, you want at most one of them to actually do
> something ;-)  Once the heap has been given to the JVM, Linux memory
> management can not see inside. When Linux cannot manage it, you want
> the heap to be resident in the virtual machine.
> But one can and should question whether the JVM heap is properly
> sized. Some of the rules of thumb in sizing the heap (like "when in
> doubt, double it") come from the world of spare memory and may not
> apply to Linux on z/VM. The Java Garbage Collector is not as scary as
> it used to be. There's options in GC to see high water marks etc that
> help you size the heap. I have seen installations so oversize that
> after weeks the first GC had not even happened. If you can make it
> clean up now and then, you limit the amount of fresh pages and have
> more chance to keep those pages resident on VM. That may very well
> outweigh the extra cost for GC now and then.
>
> Rob
> --
> Rob van der Heij
> Velocity Software, Inc
> http://velocitysoftware.com/
>

--
DJ
V/Soft

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