On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:34 AM, John Summerfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Until the vendors change their approach, administrators are going to be
>  working that way.

But isn't that why folks bother to hang out on mailing lists and learn
how to improve their way of working?

I consider the default setup maybe the easiest way to get started, but
not necessarily the best approach to run your system. My expectations
of an end-user system are different. If you have someone install just
one or two systems, you want the installer to do most things right and
let the user resume his real work. But with professionals doing
installs as their job, I'd expect them to know the requirements better
than the vendor. Bonus points for installers that let you tweak the
process rather than fight it (I have bad memories of YaST re-install
some products each time it could).

We used to have IBM products with installation instructions like this:
 CP MSG OPERATOR PLEASE MOUNT TAPE
 CP WNG ALL MAINTENANCE WILL BEGIN !
 REW 181
Even though these are actual commands, I believe they should not be
taken literally as the maintenance procedure in any shop.

Rob

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