Rob van der Heij wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:34 AM, John Summerfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Until the vendors change their approach, administrators are going to be
working that way.
But isn't that why folks bother to hang out on mailing lists and learn
how to improve their way of working?
Sure. How many do you know of who don't hang out on these lists?
I consider the default setup maybe the easiest way to get started, but
Lots of people reckon Apple does a good job on UI design. By default,
root on OS X is locked, and users who have administrative rights use
their own password.
That's probably why Ubuntu does it that way, white a few of the (early)
techos were Apple fans.
not necessarily the best approach to run your system. My expectations
of an end-user system are different. If you have someone install just
one or two systems, you want the installer to do most things right and
let the user resume his real work. But with professionals doing
installs as their job, I'd expect them to know the requirements better
than the vendor. Bonus points for installers that let you tweak the
process rather than fight it (I have bad memories of YaST re-install
some products each time it could).
Over time, there have been arguments on RH lists that RH wasn't doing
enough to make systems as secure they should be, and criticising RH
practices. I remember complaining about many rpms that could only be
built by root - the kernel was the last I recall, and at the time the
build process was creating a device entry.
RH has learned and generally has done things fairly well long enough
that Brad may be surprised to read this:-)
We used to have IBM products with installation instructions like this:
CP MSG OPERATOR PLEASE MOUNT TAPE
CP WNG ALL MAINTENANCE WILL BEGIN !
REW 181
Even though these are actual commands, I believe they should not be
taken literally as the maintenance procedure in any shop.
I used to install a lot of third-party stuff on MVS; I learned to use
salt when reading instructions.
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Cheers
John
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