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> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Alan Ackerman
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:09 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: z/Linux access to z/OS DASD
> 
> One of my managers told me that since you could make both ECKD (FICON)
> and SCSI (FCP) connections to the same IBM Storage subsystem, z/Linux
> should be able to read z/OS data off the z/OS volumes, without any
> special formatting by z/OS. I asked IBM and they said it couldn't be
> done - z/Linux cannot read z/OS data and vice-versa.
> 
> Is this correct?

No. 

z/OS cannot read Linux DASD if the DASD is "Open Systems" connected.
However, if it is ECKD, then z/OS could theoritically read it. However,
you'd need to implement the filesystem driver code on z/OS. This could
be "user space" code that actually does EXCP processing (or XDAP) or one
of the more advanced I/O methods. Come to think of it, BDAM might even
work. But remember that if the filesystem is read-write to some Linux
system at the time, the DASD may be "fuzzy" and not contain the actual
data as would be seen by a Linux program. This is due to the aggressive
caching done by Linux. Forget any read-write sharing. There be dragons
there. And blown filesystems, too.

There is a driver that runs on Linux which can read z/OS legacy
datasets, but not z/OS UNIX files. Interpreting the data is your
problem, not the I/O driver's! But I don't remember much about it. I
think that it is READ-ONLY.

Personal opinion time, doning Security Admin hat: There is NO way that I
would allow a Linux system to directly access my z/OS datasets. Why? No
ability to audit. No ability to restrict access and prove that access
was restricted to authorized users (thinking of HIPAA data).

Now, I __might__ consider it if only a very few z/OS volumes were even
accessable from the Linux system and I could assure myself that the
datasets on those volumes never contained any confidential information
that might require auditing.

> 
> If so, what would it take to make z/Linux able to read z/OS data
> directly?  New drivers?  A new file system?  How hard would this be to
> write?
> 
> I am aware that you can access z/OS data from z/Linux (or any Linux)
> over the network via one of:
> 
> *       NFS mount
> *       Samba mount
> *       Co:Z Co-Processing Toolkit
> 
> That's not what I am looking for here.  Our objective is to lower z/OS
> MIPS by moving workload to z/Linux.  A network "mount" would certainly
> cost some z/OS MIPS.  Moving workload to z/Linux without moving data
> would save money because IFLs cost less than standard engines and the
> software cost of Linux is lower than that of z/OS.
> 
> Alan Ackerman

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