Hertz are hertz, but don't make the assumption that on intel, adding a 
processor doubles
the throughput.  The target market for x86 emulation would be older processors 
in need of
upgrade - not new ones. Nobody who wants to impress their management should be
recommending this solution until it's proven viable.



Harder, Pieter wrote:

Eh, Barton, you mean 1 Intel 2ghz core, don't you? Assuming an Intel server to 
be 2
quad-core sockets, that would be almost 1 z10 IFL versus 1 Intel server. Or do I
completely misunderstand you?

Best regards,
Pieter Harder

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Academic in the fact that it wouldn't make sense from a business perspective.

Simple arithmetic:  Emulation normally takes an order of magnitude more cycles.  Thus a workload that 
consumes 10% of a 2Ghz intel processor would consume 1/2 of a z10 IFL.  Even with the new low price for z10 
IFL, making a business case would be difficult.  The Mantissa website seems to focus on education - one class 
can have their "intel" servers, then when the class is over, the next class can have their 
"intel" servers - that could make business sense if academia looks for business sense - but VMWare 
is likely going to be a better business case.  If Mantissa is very good at miracles and they get only 2 times 
the cycle requirement, with servers that are 10% busy, assuming 2ghz processors, one z10 IFL will max out 
replacing 10 intel servers. I will be eagerly waiting to see some real performance data. (And of course when 
someone asked to put up open solaris on our z9, i quickly said yes as performance will be 
"interesting" i am sure).

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