IBM still offers Scorpion and RACE studies. - The Scorpion study is a very extensive lab service offering - Both of them are now platform agnostic (no z in front of RACE).
The RACE study now requires executive sponsorship and a commitment to move forward with a proof of concept (POC) if the numbers work out favorable for a System z solution. - The study is only as good as the information that is made available for it. - Processor types, utilization and or transaction rates, and then all the cost associated with your data center as a whole is a quick high level view of what is required. - When a data center is divided, or run by silos it can be very difficult to get everyone working together. - That is really required in order to collect really useful information for this type of study. A major message behind building a Smarter IT Infrastructures starts by managing your data center like a single, well oiled machine. - A lot of moving parts exist, and you want them all working together in order to insure smooth over all efficiency with consistent output exist. - Getting a great return on your investment also helps in todays economy. By the way, I am not sure if IBM offers these studies outside of the United States. Thanks and Best Regards, Kurt Acker IBM Smarter Planet, Smarter Data Centers Harold Grovesteen <h.grovst...@tx.rr.com> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU> 05/06/2009 06:38 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU> To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: LoZ proc use Vs Linux under other platforms zRACE is still available. We did a rather incomplete study with still interesting results in 2007. Of course, politics can make the effort worthless. A senior manager simply refused to make any infrastructure changes. So, executive sponsorship is important if you go down this route. Contact your IBM account rep. What problems did you perceive or had you heard about? Harold Grovesteen Richard Gasiorowski wrote: >I use a cost model based on the traditional distributed serves. Basically >you total the cost of the hdw (processor, memory, ficon, OSA, CEC when new >frame) plus the cost of linux. Use this base to determine cost per server >per month. You can add the middleware costs when you know them. You can >as I have compare the costs against the other platforms. Of course sizing >is needed. IBM use to have zRACE but the last I heard there were problems >with it but this would be a good starting point with you. I cannot share >my cost model tool company confidential. It is based off of XCL >spreadsheets. > >'Where ever you go - There you are!! ' >Richard (Gaz) Gasiorowski >System z - Linux Product Manager >Portfolio Platform Services >CSC >3170 Fairview Park Dr., Falls Church, VA 22042 >845-889-8533|Work|845-392-7889 Cell|rgasi...@csc.com|www.csc.com > > > > >This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please >delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in >delivery. >NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to >any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement >or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such >purpose. > > > >Daniel Vila <vi...@ar.ibm.com> >Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU> >05/05/2009 02:32 PM >Please respond to >Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU> > > >To >LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >cc > >Subject >LoZ proc use Vs Linux under other platforms > > > > > > >Kurt, Mark,Erik tks for your quick response, some answers was very useful >and self explanatory. >I understand that mainframe use have several advantage when high i/o and >high network throughput is required and couldn't be compared. >But are there any cost table whatever be the processing unit that can be >used to compare with other platforms ? > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >visit >http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit >http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
