Hi - Alan is right, of course. Let me add a few things. 1. although I have no idea as to your shop's actual reasoning in my experience if z/os in charge of the I/O configuration (fairly typical) they tend to be stingy generating RDEVs (OK, UCBs) on IQD type chpids. I have no idea why z/os has this mentality as they often have thousands of UCBs to handle DASD PAVing. My practice if I can get get a hold of the IOCP or at least influence it is to gen 255 addresses (RDEVs) on the IQD chpids. Oh yeah I sort of remember - z/OS doesn't have that many TCPIP stacks to support so genning only a few triplets almost makes sense (the same triplets can be shared on different LPARs - again this a style decision you need to make at your shop).
2. don't be confused by the fact you have the same LAN segment on different CHPIDs. They're ignorant of each other. Up until the moment the moment that one stack has two sets of hipersockets defined to it the networks can't see each other. 3. From z/VM MAINT userid do a: Q CHPID E8 Q CHPID E9 this will show you the devices bolted off each chpid - could be informative! 4. where possible I like to have only a few hipersocket IQD chpids - hopefully one -, define a VLAN topology on top of the hipersocket network, and go from there. It's charming. David Kreuter -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: hipersocket question for dummies (me ) From: Offer Baruch <offerbar...@gmail.com> Date: Sat, January 21, 2012 4:29 am To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Hi, i didn't understand if E8xx and E9xx are on the same chpid... i think they are. it seems you were on the right path but you missed something... on z/OS you have created 3 devices that are all on the same subnet. defining 3 routes to each Device will not help. how will z/OS know when to use which path? in your case it always uses the first. that is why E8 keeps working. because you added more IP addresses to z/OS i guess that you don't mind that E9 guests will reach z/OS using a different IP address. That said, you can define each device group (E8, E9 etc) in a different VLAN. Check out the DEVICE/LINK/INTERFACE statements to select the VLAN to use. that will allow you to use more than one subnet on that chpid. if i got it wrong and you want all guests and z/OS to be on the same subnet than you must add more devices to E8xx as Alan said... Offer Baruch On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Alan Altmark <alan_altm...@us.ibm.com>wrote: > On Friday, 01/20/2012 at 04:38 EST, bruce.light...@its.ms.gov wrote: > > > The first 8 guests work just fine - z/OS IP address is 192.168.4.2 and > the > > guests are 192.168.4.xxx and all are using CHPID E8 > > After the 8 guests are defined, we are out of E8 triplets so we give the > > next 2 E9xx triplets. > > The z/OS stack has E9 defined and started as 192.168.4.3. > > The 2 new guests can ping themselves but not the z/OS, z/OS can ping > itself > > but not the 2 new guests - the 8 guests on E8 are no problem but no joy > > going to E9 . > > Changing the dedicate statement for the guest to use EAxx also gets no > joy > > - even though the z/OS thinks it has EA at 192.168.4.4 > > The redbook for hipersockets isn't helping today - nor is the > > communications server manual. > > > > I'm sure that this is something blindingly simple but I just don't see > it - > > would someone please point this dba who is subbing as a sysprog in the > > right direction. > > You're right, it's simple. That said, it's not obvious. But since you're > just subbing, all is forgiven. :-) > > Each HiperSocket chpid is its own LAN segment. They are not bridged > together. So the hosts using E8 have to go through a *router* (e.g. > Linux, z/OS, z/VM) to get a host attached to E9 or EA. > > If you run out of triplets, you need to define more. > > Alan Altmark > > Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant > IBM System Lab Services and Training > ibm.com/systems/services/labservices > office: 607.429.3323 > mobile; 607.321.7556 > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > IBM Endicott > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/